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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467087
01/20/22 03:00 PM
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YukonJeff nailed it. The added bonus is shortly after you convert to this way of eating, little to no carb, you actually eat less daily which fuels the weight loss. You also get off the "hangry bus" I used to not be able to go 4-5 hours without getting cranky from blood sugar issues. Not uncommon now to go 15-20 hours between meals with no side affects.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: yukonjeff] #7467107
01/20/22 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Your getting it but still room for improvement.

Quit all sugar drinks also fruit and juices, the only fruit you can have is a avocodo, I recomend one a day. And quit all bread and pasta. If you want to eat bread and pasta make it from almond for coconut flour.

Do eat butter, salt and good fat, like olive oil, coconut oil, cheese,meat fish and eggs all you want, eat green lefy vegies evey day, keeps you fromgetting consipaded.

Dont avoid fat, and calories dont matter, eat animal fat. Justs avoid carbs and sugar of all types. You will lose weight eating fat belive it or not.

I agree with you on everything except the part about green vegetables keeping you from getting constipated. That didn't work for me. It got so bad I had to resort to using MiraLax which my doctor told me wasn't good to use as often as I was using it because your body will start to depend on it. Instead, every night before I go to bed, I eat one apple.

That worked pretty well until I found out I have Stage 3 kidney disease. When I ended up seeing a nephrologist, I was told to get off the high protein, low carb diet because of my rising creatinine levels. I don't eat as much protein as the diet dictates, but still stay away from carbs pretty much and eat lots of vegetables and do eat certain fruits mostly cantaloupe.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467215
01/20/22 05:22 PM
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You stick with a high fiber diet things work well, what is not so important one minute can be a crisis just a few minutes later! LOL laugh


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467260
01/20/22 06:13 PM
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I'm going to tell you something that's going to blow your mind especially if you think fats are bad.

My son was athletic in high school, played high school football and was 6-2 and 255 pounds at graduation and fit. By the time he was in his late 20's he was over 300. He is a software developer so he sits all day and he drank a lot of Mountain Dew. By age 38, he was 405 pounds, high blood pressure, going diabetic, high cholesterol and overall bad health. He read some things about carbs and fats and proteins and made a decision.

He went on a diet of animal fats. He ate a stick of butter for 3 meals a day. When he would get tired of the butter, he would drink a carton of heavy whipping cream

Did that for three months! Lost 50 pounds then started adding some other proteins into the diet but still eats a lot of fat. One year later he is down to 295 and needs to have a lot of saggy skin surgically removed. His blood pressure is down, no longer in danger of diabetes and even his cholesterol is way down. He eats a little vegetables but mostly meat and animal fat. His doctor can't believe it but she just says keep at it. He says he has more energy than he has in years.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467352
01/20/22 07:35 PM
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The issue with that is high protein diets are linked to brain issues my Doc said meat yes but portions the size of the palm of your hand not any bigger then that where fruits and vegetables don’t have that impact on the brain. Big difference in drinking juices and eating the pulp of the fruits on the intake side and digestion and absorbing the sugar.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467387
01/20/22 08:06 PM
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I was given Rosuvastatin years ago to take but had to stop it and any other statin due to the leg cramps I was getting at night. Couldnt get much sleep with them it was pretty bad. You get those kinds of cramps you don't get back to sleep very easily. I hope you don't experience that side effect.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Bob Jameson] #7467404
01/20/22 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
I was given Rosuvastatin years ago to take but had to stop it and any other statin due to the leg cramps I was getting at night. Couldnt get much sleep with them it was pretty bad. You get those kinds of cramps you don't get back to sleep very easily. I hope you don't experience that side effect.


No issues so far the Metformin knocks me out for a short nap I take the AM med about 4 AM when I let the dog out and check the boiler.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467406
01/20/22 08:31 PM
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Good diet and daily exercise is important to have good quality of life.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467411
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Vitamin D with the statins.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467420
01/20/22 08:43 PM
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How many follow a "keto" diet? Then there are people who do keto but also fast regularity. My wife tries to do keto to control her diabetes (such as reduce her insulin amounts, she's type 2 but uses insulin--used to use LOTS of insulin). The problem is that for her truly following keto is hard. I'll eat whatever is around...


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467480
01/20/22 09:26 PM
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Last year I carried a beaver out across a muddy field to the truck and thought i was going to have a heart attack and couldn't hardly catch my breath. My knees had been hurting. A few days later I weighed at my daughters house and I weighed 225 and I'm 5' 10" . I decided to do something about it then and there. I try to have a low carb diet and I don't eat till 9-10 in the morning and do not eat after 6 pm. I have a slice of keto bread a day and alot of days have a serving of keto ice cream for dessert. No other breads, candy pasta or fruit. Eat eggs, meat, cheese, and lots of green vegetables. Also lots of water. I lost 50 pounds and now weigh 173 to 175 and feel like I'm 20 years younger. I can bend over and put my palms on the floor now, I don't do that very often but I can do it now. The knee pain went away and my stamina is back. I would recommend any one to try it. It has really improved the quality of my life.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467494
01/20/22 09:35 PM
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no keto for me.....balanced carbs, protein and fats...all natural foods and not much processed food at all... some pasta sauces is about it for processed foods. I keep around 2500 calories a day intake. 65, 6', 195, 34" waist. I do regular aerobic capacity training and regular strength training.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467542
01/20/22 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog


Did find a butter tasting spray that had zero anything it makes it doable.

[Linked Image]


Ingredients:

Real butter: Cream, salt

The abomination pictured: Soy bean oil, natural butter flavor, beta carotene (for color), contains milk

Diets matter for sure man. Good luck to you.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467633
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Sounds like you all are in weight watchers or some BS, I'm sticin to steak Ribeyes cooked rare with tons of salt throw in some green beans and some potatoes and a couple glasses of raw milk. O ya did I forget to say my blood panel is a straight A.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467636
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The issue with that is high protein diets are linked to brain issues my Doc said meat yes but portions the size of the palm of your hand not any bigger then that where fruits and vegetables don’t have that impact on the brain. Big difference in drinking juices and eating the pulp of the fruits on the intake side and digestion and absorbing the sugar.


Has your Dr, seen his lately

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467647
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Jerry that might be true for some but not all. The main reason doctors say limit meats is because of the saturated fats and the link to strokes.

My neurologists and primary dr all recommended me having high protein high fat low carb diet but also to include lots of fruits and veggies. This diet is typically recommended for people with neurological disorders like seizures and others.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467654
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"Diets matter"

What a novel concept. I wonder why our medical professionals have been so slow to catch on to that truth.

As a guide, my biggest headache is obese clients. More often than not a bear we see (that my sorry old 64 y.o. butt could run out and shoot) may as well be on the moon, many of my hunters just can't get there.

I'm not trying to insult you guys who have put on a few too many pounds, but it just pains me to see so many outdoorsmen who aren't physically able to do what they would really like to be doing.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467658
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5.5 years of fibro and other issues and still learning how diet affects me. I try my best to limit my intake of most dairy foods as they are inflammatory foods.
Also I take numerous vitamins as opposed to a multivitamin. The multi is good but not like ther straight vitamin. Also certain supplements also significantly help

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467666
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I think for most of us the cholesterol issues are more genetic rather than cholesterol that we consume. The blood sugar is the far more concerning issue. I also was up there with a sky high A1c but with exercise, proper diet and metformin my last A1c was 5.9

For those of us diabetics that are still producing are own insulin it is important to get exercise so that our cells can use that insulin to absorb sugar.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467667
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Sounds like living will kill you! lol


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