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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467673
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I lost 25 pounds and I’m not fat or out of shape like said lots of folks can’t walk up a flight of stairs or tie their shoes. I went through the academy at age 50 the oldest guy there and could out jog 3/4 of my class and keep up with most of the rest. I cut my cholesterol in half in 3 months so it’s diet with me sugar fueled for most of my life.

I thought I was invincible like most healthy folks but it catches up with you someday the young pups will find that out in the future. It was just a few years ago I had a clean bill of healthy after a series of check up tests “ no follow up needed” back then.

I’m surprised a fine figure of a man would even open this post 6 months ago I’d pass it up myself. LOL


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: yukonjeff] #7467675
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Your getting it but still room for improvement.

Quit all sugar drinks also fruit and juices, the only fruit you can have is a avocodo, I recomend one a day. And quit all bread and pasta. If you want to eat bread and pasta make it from almond for coconut flour.

Do eat butter, salt and good fat, like olive oil, coconut oil, cheese,meat fish and eggs all you want, eat green lefy vegies evey day, keeps you fromgetting consipaded.

Dont avoid fat, and calories dont matter, eat animal fat. Justs avoid carbs and sugar of all types. You will lose weight eating fat belive it or not.


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THIS!!!!
If a doctor tells you to stay away from animal fats they are only regurgitating something they heard once (probably from a vegan).
Our bodies are made to consume animal fats. Stay away from fake fats or modified fats (especially ones that come in a yellow spray cans that say things like "Movie theater butter flavour").

Do shun any white carbs; wheat flour, potatoes, rice, sugar, etc.. Get soda out of your mind.

Heart disease had it's beginnings in agricultural societies (grain crops), meat eating hunter gathers didn't get heart disease until agriculture showed up along with modern processed foods. Take a tour of west coast Alaska and see what processed foods have done to the native Alaskans of the region. Literally every adult male I know in that area is diabetic, and many of them overweight. BTW, I know some guys who are as skinny as a rail that are diabetic too.
It's all due to modern carbs.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467727
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True

The natives here never ate any grains, sugar or fruit. We had none here. They ate a proper human diet of meat, fish,eggs,waterfowl,ptarmagin,rabbits and grouse greens,berries,marine mammals and their oil and survived in a very harsh winter conditions.

There are some old doctors' myths that need to be addressed.

1. Fruit : was only meant to be eaten in season, not every day. And if your insulin resistant eating none is best for now. Its full of sugar, and sugar is sugar, same with honey and the same with maple syrup its a very high carb sugar food. A banana has three teaspoons of sugar and a bunch of other carbs in it. Lemon water is good though do drink that every day.
you have been told that eating fruit is good for you and full of vitamin C. No its full of sugar and has some vitamin C. Get your vitamin C from better sources instead. Sourcrout is full of C, so is green leafy vegies.

2. Salt: Is bad for you. plugs up your arteries, dont eat it if you have a heart condition or hypertension; False. All animals need salt. Salt your food to taste. Look up the recent studies on it if you don't believe me. If you have been avoiding salt, start eating salt for one month and see how much better you feel.

3. "The cholesterol in eggs is bad for you" Totally false. eggs are a perfect food. they have every vitamin except vitamin C. Your body needs cholesterol to absorb Vitamin D. That was just another lie.

4." Fiber magically cancel's out carbs". I bought some Keto bread that had the same bad ingredients as regular white bread. the only difference is that they added plant fiber. Yea right. and if you think whole grain is any better its actually worse. Its full of lectins as well.

Milk: What is milk ? Its mammal food for baby cows to make them grow big and fat as fast as possible. It will do that to you too. And its full of milk sugars as well. Skim milk is even worse. they take out the fat and its condensed sugars then.

70% of American adults are becoming insulin resistant due to a high carb diet. Its the cause of 95% of heart conditions and all the diabetics. And all the hypertension

It can all be reversed even type two diabetes if the proper diet is followed.

If we continue with our teenage diet as we get older that will happen.

You dont even need to watch your food intake, eat all you want during meals but dont snack, and try to skip breakfast or one meal a day if you can.

Carbs hold water, and once you lower the carbs you will lose water weight right away like 20 lbs the first month without even going hungry.

Then your burning fat instead of sugar and carbs and losing it.

Its not as bad as it sounds. I eat everything I want pretty much just avoid grains and cane ,beet ,fructose sugar.

Once your blood sugar, hypertension and weight are under control, you can add in some carbs and have cheat days once in awhile.






Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467832
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I do think genetics factor in. My dad is 95 and eats what he wants, not the diet a Dr. would recommend. I must have blood from his moms side of family, men that died in their 70's from heart attacks and strokes. I just had to go on lipitor for high cholesterol even though I am not over weight, and do get out and do stuff, love chocolate, have to cut down some on that.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467838
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Trust the experts! Take your pills and eat the factory made sludge! Stay 6 feet away from red meat.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467911
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Vitamin D with the statins

Vitamin D is a great idea. But if you are taking a statin drug you need CoQ10 added as a supplement. Statins remove some of the CoQ10 from your heart muscle. That's been known for decades.

Better yet, follow some of the advice here (yukonjeff) and you won't need statins in 6 months.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7467913
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Slippery slope a lot of foods are full of salt, saturated fats and sugars of all different names that hide their true nature, cutting out pop and chocolate seems to of had the biggest impact on my diet. A person has to eat something so the problems begins first thing in the day but eggs, oatmeal fill that gap then it gets tougher there on out.

A lot of foods are converted into sugars quickly, it seems the more processed the quicker it converts into sugars. From what I gather the idea is to get the food to travel through the intestines while slowly releasing what it has to offer along the way rather then a dump it all at once spiking your sugar levels.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7468013
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It sounds like you have a good start. I know at the start of the pandemic when we went to hibernation my wife had great sucess with the weight watchers point loss plan and wanted me to try it. So I did. you do not cut out any food group. that helps because I like a few carbs. In the year plus of hibernation I dropped from 202 to 158.4 at my lowest weight. I did have a good time through the holidays about 10 lbs taking it off now lost 3 lbs in the last couple weeks.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7468034
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Cholesterol is often a genetic factor (diet will not help you here). Consider this: My older sister who is vegetarian (occasional fish) was diagnosed with high cholesterol. About 130. She went on an oatmeal, red rice yeast etc etc diet with everything to reduce cholesterol. Avoided fats... blah blah blah. After three months she tested at 140. It's genetic!

I will add: my mother had high cholesterol. My dad did not. Of us six siblings three of us have high cholesterol issues, and three do not. Diet does not come into play in our case.

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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7468044
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Fiber, fiber, fiber. Its so important but actually hard to get the recommended daily amount. Metamusil is easy to add to liquids and adds no taste, but much more is needed than just a additive. Dark chocolate has fiber and dark chocolate has healthy benefits. Consumed with a cup of coffee takes the bitterness away. I started snacking with dark chocolate years ago, to me it now tastes sweet. Eating normal chocolate now is almost impossible because it simply tastes way too sweet. Tortilla shells with high fiber are more common in supermarkets now. A high fiber shell may only have 4grams of carbs compared with 20+ carbs of a regular tortilla. Plus 10+ grams of fiber per shell. Overall, diets suck, but with some simple modifications and a bit of knowledge about nutrition, a diet is no longer "feels" like a diet. Its too bad there's no truth in advertising when it comes to the food we purchase. For those people trying to loose weight, my friend who is a cardiologist told me he tells his patients this. Just try and loose one pound per week. Otherwise people burn themselves out in the early stages of diets trying to loose too much. Do the math, 1 lb per week is 26 in a half year and much more sustainable than crash diets that are doomed to fail.

Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7468055
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they very much do matter

Doc gave me similar news in September

I stopped all the sugar , rice , bread , if I was getting carbs they now come from a fruit or vegetable a few from milk

I had to really cut my milk consumption I was drinking a half gallon a day

milk is 12 carbs per cup

a lot of people don't realize one 20 ounce bottle of pop is 133% of daily sugar and they finished that on the way to work

I have dropped about 30 pounds since September


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: beaverpeeler] #7468066
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Cholesterol is often a genetic factor (diet will not help you here). Consider this: My older sister who is vegetarian (occasional fish) was diagnosed with high cholesterol. About 130. She went on an oatmeal, red rice yeast etc etc diet with everything to reduce cholesterol. Avoided fats... blah blah blah. After three months she tested at 140. It's genetic!

I will add: my mother had high cholesterol. My dad did not. Of us six siblings three of us have high cholesterol issues, and three do not. Diet does not come into place in our case.

Just curious if this genetic high cholesterol has contributed to adverse health effects; Stroke, etc..
I'm am just guessing but maybe some people with high cholesterol don't end up with plugged up carotid arteries, and other bad stuff??


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7468074
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What about tortilla chips, whiskey and purple or yellow potatoes since they’re not ‘white’ carbs?


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Originally Posted by drasselt
What about tortilla chips, whiskey and purple or yellow potatoes since they’re not ‘white’ carbs?


all out


carrots , nuts , tea


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: Law Dog] #7468082
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The studies say that healthiest foods to eat are made in mega factories by mega corporations! Trust the science (that was funded by the mega corporations or the Fed Gov bureaucrats who are also funded by the mega corps)!

Red meat and eggs that can be easily procured yourself or from your local community is bad for you.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: beaverpeeler] #7468085
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Cholesterol is often a genetic factor (diet will not help you here). Consider this: My older sister who is vegetarian (occasional fish) was diagnosed with high cholesterol. About 130. She went on an oatmeal, red rice yeast etc etc diet with everything to reduce cholesterol. Avoided fats... blah blah blah. After three months she tested at 140. It's genetic!



Oh my... this may sound radical but hear me out... what if her (terrible) diet is causing the high cholesterol?

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Dropped one of my jobs August 1st. I and my wife went low carb, not keto - could not do that, just us,couldn;t do that, cut out refined grains, and sugars. So Atkins type low carb and modified for us. I have lost 65 pounds and Kath has lost 32 pounds.
With dropping one job I have more time for exercise, like cutting firewood, etc. work around the house. I was working three jobs. We like low carb, Atkins like and it works for us. And yes genetics plays a factor, I am built like my moms side large but my numbers are great. My brother much smaller, weight is good and his number are terrible. He is built like my dads side. Find what works for you, but refined grains, and sugar are not good for us.

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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Cholesterol is often a genetic factor (diet will not help you here). Consider this: My older sister who is vegetarian (occasional fish) was diagnosed with high cholesterol. About 130. She went on an oatmeal, red rice yeast etc etc diet with everything to reduce cholesterol. Avoided fats... blah blah blah. After three months she tested at 140. It's genetic!

I will add: my mother had high cholesterol. My dad did not. Of us six siblings three of us have high cholesterol issues, and three do not. Diet does not come into place in our case.

Just curious if this genetic high cholesterol has contributed to adverse health effects; Stroke, etc..
I'm am just guessing but maybe some people with high cholesterol don't end up with plugged up carotid arteries, and other bad stuff??

One of my brothers has refused to treat it with statins, etc. He is 76 years old and was recently found to have extremely high blood calcium and 60% blockage of one of his carotids. His heart was OK though.


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Re: Diets matter. [Re: DecoyMacoy] #7468095
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Originally Posted by DecoyMacoy
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Cholesterol is often a genetic factor (diet will not help you here). Consider this: My older sister who is vegetarian (occasional fish) was diagnosed with high cholesterol. About 130. She went on an oatmeal, red rice yeast etc etc diet with everything to reduce cholesterol. Avoided fats... blah blah blah. After three months she tested at 140. It's genetic!



Oh my... this may sound radical but hear me out... what if her (terrible) diet is causing the high cholesterol?

LOL...but her meat eating savage brother (me) also has high cholesterol which I am now pounding down with statins.


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my meals for the next week look like this

chili
pork chops with green beans
stirfry with chicken , carrots , onions, peppers , zucchini, mushrooms I found a mushroom broth base that flavors and thickens the juice without adding carbs
Taco salad
eggs and bacon
baked chicken with green beans
foil packet fish with baked onion and green beans

I cut up extra stir fry veg and keep it in a container in the fridge so I can cook up a stir fry for lunch or eat leftovers
I also keep pork chops bagged 2 to a bag in the freezer for lunches and when I need a quick meal

snacks of cheese , almonds. peanuts , carrots , apples , pork rinds

drink coffee with just a little lactose free milk because it has half the carbs of regular milk
lots of water
iced tea
occasionally a small glass of milk


about the only reason to visit the middle of the grocery store is for dish soap , coffee , and spices a few canned tomatoes and beans for the chili.


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