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Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467642 01/20/22 11:51 PM 01/20/22 11:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,854 Magna, Utah G GritGuy trapper
GritGuy trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,854 Magna, Utah	If any one thinks they are going to go on some trip one day with an EV and stop to charge for a few bucks LOL they are dreaming. It will be much like the same thing most pay for gas fuel now but by time instead of gallon. Up and down per demand ! Only way to save on these vehicles is to get them cheaply, which is impossible still ! Business's are not going to put these stations in out of convenience first, but return on the dollar . Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !

Re: Charging stations [Re: BuckMink] #7467668 01/21/22 12:25 AM 01/21/22 12:25 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 16,150 Tennessee Scuba1 "color blind Kraut"
Scuba1 "color blind Kraut" Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 16,150 Tennessee	Originally Posted by BuckMink Originally Posted by hippie Depends on the "entertainment" they provide while your waiting. Heavy rains and puddles come to mind regarding entertainment... You talking tap dancing for entertainment ?? Let's go Brandon "Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467724 01/21/22 03:21 AM 01/21/22 03:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,709 Wisconsin Scott__aR trapper
Scott__aR trapper Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,709 Wisconsin	Problem solved: [video:google]https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYwT-h9lgJD/?utm_medium=copy_link[/video] Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of MTPCA Member of NTA

Re: Charging stations [Re: MattLA] #7467765 01/21/22 07:06 AM 01/21/22 07:06 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa	Originally Posted by Tofan We are actually in line for the F150 electric truck, it's a little bit exciting to be honest. All the people who bought Teslas or other all electric vehicles are laughing at us now driving our big diesel trucks that cost a 100 dollar bill to fill up. Not only am I looking forward to "refilling" at a cheaper rate, but also eventually one day not having to rely on a utility company for power. Solar has come a long way in just a few years! Good luck with that.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467805 01/21/22 08:09 AM 01/21/22 08:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,165 Three Lakes,WI 72 C corky trapper
corky trapper C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,165 Three Lakes,WI 72	If someone is ahead of you now at the gas pump you might have to wait 5 minutes. If the charging station is occupied you may have to wait much longer. If your time is without value there is no problem I suppose. I see big problems ahead for the travel industry. http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Re: Charging stations [Re: MattLA] #7467815 01/21/22 08:12 AM 01/21/22 08:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	Originally Posted by Tofan We are actually in line for the F150 electric truck, it's a little bit exciting to be honest. All the people who bought Teslas or other all electric vehicles are laughing at us now driving our big diesel trucks that cost a 100 dollar bill to fill up. Not only am I looking forward to "refilling" at a cheaper rate, but also eventually one day not having to rely on a utility company for power. Solar has come a long way in just a few years! While waiting for it to charge you'll be singing "too too too too much time on my hands........" Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467820 01/21/22 08:18 AM 01/21/22 08:18 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 605 North Dakota B BFP trapper
BFP trapper B Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 605 North Dakota	The price of fossil fuel fluctuates, the price of electricity just goes up.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467822 01/21/22 08:19 AM 01/21/22 08:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	We've spent all this time going with CORDLESS gadgets to eliminate the bothersome cords. Now the EV are making cords popular again. I do think EVs are a good idea in the cities where folks don't have far to commute, where money isn't a problem, where time isn't a problem. Folks who don't earn 6 figures will never afford an EV. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Charging stations [Re: BFP] #7467831 01/21/22 08:28 AM 01/21/22 08:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa	Originally Posted by BFP The price of fossil fuel fluctuates, the price of electricity just goes up. People who think EVs are going to be cheaper aren't doing much thinking.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467837 01/21/22 08:40 AM 01/21/22 08:40 AM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,869 meadowview, Virginia E EdP trapper
EdP trapper E Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,869 meadowview, Virginia	This was discussed here before. The concept that works is standardized batteries that are easily removable and battery replacement stations that swap batteries in a few minutes. That would allow a person to go on their way quickly. The swap cost would be based on an amp-hour basis (the difference in the charge in the newly installed battery and the remaining charge in the one removed). The stations would have a surplus of batteries and would charge the batteries removed. They would have the high voltage transmission lines and substation to provide the power needed. The concept described above recognizes that batteries take significant time to charge. The present concept of charging stations where people wait is not practical and will not become practical without the development of batteries that can be charged in a few minutes, thereby eliminating the wait.

Re: Charging stations [Re: trapdog1] #7467849 01/21/22 09:00 AM 01/21/22 09:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,466 MN W walleye101 trapper
walleye101 trapper W Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,466 MN	Originally Posted by trapdog1 Originally Posted by BFP The price of fossil fuel fluctuates, the price of electricity just goes up. People who think EVs are going to be cheaper aren't doing much thinking. The way to make it appear cheaper is with plenty of government subsidies, which is our own money in the first place, but folks keep falling for that shell game.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467855 01/21/22 09:03 AM 01/21/22 09:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,207 Northern Minnesota BernieB. trapper
BernieB. trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,207 Northern Minnesota	If people are willing to wait that long to charge their cars I want to own the restaurant in that station. Captive audience for $6 a cup coffee and $15 burgers. www.berniesbearcamp.com https://www.youtube.com/user/BowhuntingRoad/about

Re: Charging stations [Re: EdP] #7467909 01/21/22 09:45 AM 01/21/22 09:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa	Originally Posted by EdP This was discussed here before. The concept that works is standardized batteries that are easily removable and battery replacement stations that swap batteries in a few minutes. That would allow a person to go on their way quickly. The swap cost would be based on an amp-hour basis (the difference in the charge in the newly installed battery and the remaining charge in the one removed). The stations would have a surplus of batteries and would charge the batteries removed. They would have the high voltage transmission lines and substation to provide the power needed. The concept described above recognizes that batteries take significant time to charge. The present concept of charging stations where people wait is not practical and will not become practical without the development of batteries that can be charged in a few minutes, thereby eliminating the wait. Might be a lucrative business towing cars that couldn't make it to the battery replacement stations.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467919 01/21/22 09:59 AM 01/21/22 09:59 AM
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia	Does anyone actually have one or know how long it takes to charge? How many miles can it get on a charge? Does speed matter on battery drainage? Can they pull anything? Do they make 4x4’s and if so can they get messed up with bogging?

Re: Charging stations [Re: Wanna Be] #7467939 01/21/22 10:16 AM 01/21/22 10:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,615 Iowa	Originally Posted by Wanna Be Does anyone actually have one or know how long it takes to charge? How many miles can it get on a charge? Does speed matter on battery drainage? Can they pull anything? Do they make 4x4’s and if so can they get messed up with bogging? I don't know the answers, but I reckon it will all become clearer with time.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467950 01/21/22 10:26 AM 01/21/22 10:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,549 coastal ny G gcs trapper
gcs trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,549 coastal ny	The only charge stations I see are at the back of a 100 acre parking lot... As for swapping batteries, who's going to do that? can't get anyone to hand a hamburger out a drive through window...at up to 20 bucks an hour....

Re: Charging stations [Re: MattLA] #7467960 01/21/22 10:37 AM 01/21/22 10:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,861 Greene County,Virginia R run trapper
run trapper R Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,861 Greene County,Virginia	Originally Posted by Tofan We are actually in line for the F150 electric truck, it's a little bit exciting to be honest. All the people who bought Teslas or other all electric vehicles are laughing at us now driving our big diesel trucks that cost a 100 dollar bill to fill up. Not only am I looking forward to "refilling" at a cheaper rate, but also eventually one day not having to rely on a utility company for power. Solar has come a long way in just a few years! Keep us posted when you actually get the truck. Please. wanna be goat farmer.

Re: Charging stations [Re: Scott__aR] #7467965 01/21/22 10:43 AM 01/21/22 10:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,861 Greene County,Virginia R run trapper
run trapper R Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,861 Greene County,Virginia	Originally Posted by Scott__aR Problem solved: [video:google]https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYwT-h9lgJD/?utm_medium=copy_link[/video] Nice one. wanna be goat farmer.

Re: Charging stations [Re: run] #7467971 01/21/22 10:48 AM 01/21/22 10:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 19,719 pa H hippie trapper
hippie trapper H Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 19,719 pa	Originally Posted by run Originally Posted by Wanna Be Does anyone actually have one or know how long it takes to charge? How many miles can it get on a charge? Does speed matter on battery drainage? Can they pull anything? Do they make 4x4’s and if so can they get messed up with bogging? I think it takes an hour to charge the battery. One hour gets you 30 miles according to this site. https://www.greshamford.com/blogs/2481/gresham-ford-dealer/electric-f-150-truck/#:~:text=How%20long%20does%20it%20take%20to%20charge%20the,54%20miles%20of%20charge%20in%20only%2010%20minutes.

Re: Charging stations [Re: AntiGov] #7467972 01/21/22 10:48 AM 01/21/22 10:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 19,719 pa H hippie trapper
hippie trapper H Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 19,719 pa	Well that didn't work, lol.

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