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CDR manufacturing history.. #7468096
01/21/22 01:40 PM
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What is the history of this trap? I know it was designed and first built by trappers in Ohio.

But, who then bought the trap manufacturing rights after that, and after that?

What are the distinguishing pan stampings and/or other design features for each manufacturer?

Does WCS own the rights now and what is the reason for the lack of availablity?

The CDR I just acquired has Adirondax Mfg, Cherry Valley, NY in the pan.


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468192
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Back around 1998 or 1999, Carl Jones contacted me and asked if I'd test a proto-type beaver trap that he and two others were making. I said sure, and he got six of them to me. These proto-types aren't much like the final product, but they worked well. They had serial numbers stamped on the base. Here's one of them.

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When they came out with the final product, I sold them through my catalog and at conventions. When they sold the rights to the trap, there was a lag in production, and I quit carrying them. I believe a fella by the name of Beauregard (SP?)bought the rights. Sometime later WCS started producing them. I'm not sure of the dates these later events occurred. I'm only familiar with the start up, because I was involved.



Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7468196
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What did the CDR initials stand for?


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: K-zoo] #7468206
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Originally Posted by K-zoo
What did the CDR initials stand for?


Carl
Don
Randy

Last edited by Mad Scientist; 01/22/22 07:11 AM. Reason: Sorry Don
Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Mad Scientist] #7468213
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
Originally Posted by K-zoo
What did the CDR initials stand for?


Carl
Dan
Randy


Thanks.


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468215
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KB made the CDR's for a while before he dissappeared into the mountains. Not sure who is making them for WCS now. I think the base may of been a bit different with the KB ones but havent seen those in a while. All the ones I have are the original CDRs

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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468217
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I'm pretty sure it was owned by Kurt Beauregard at one time. He is the owner and inventor of the KB 550 and the KB stabilizer. Both excellent products.


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468317
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So...is the pan stamping "Adirondax Mfg, Cherry Hill, NY" referring to Kurt Beauregard's company? Hence the CDRs he made?

I see those pictured on Wildlife Control Supplies website have their logo on the pan.

Anyone know when production/distribution to dealers will restart?

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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7468325
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Back around 1998 or 1999, Carl Jones contacted me and asked if I'd test a proto-type beaver trap that he and two others were making. I said sure, and he got six of them to me. These proto-types aren't much like the final product, but they worked well. They had serial numbers stamped on the base. Here's one of them.

[Linked Image]
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[Linked Image]

When they came out with the final product, I sold them through my catalog and at conventions. When they sold the rights to the trap, there was a lag in production, and I quit carrying them. I believe a fella by the name of Beauregard (SP?)bought the rights. Sometime later WCS started producing them. I'm not sure of the dates these later events occurred. I'm only familiar with the start up, because I was involved.


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468344
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I just talked to someone from coon creek outfitters.He says he has enough parts to make 3000 cdr’s but doesn’t have the time to put them together. They are talking about hiring a company to do it.

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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
I just talked to someone from coon creek outfitters.He says he has enough parts to make 3000 cdr’s but doesn’t have the time to put them together. They are talking about hiring a company to do it.

Maybe they should sell them at a discount as "kits"

Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468352
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I should have asked.

Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468373
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Coon Creek Outfitters?

WCS doesnt own the CDR? Or is this same company?


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468419
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Coon creek outfitters is in Pennsylvania and WCS is in Connecticut I think but I don’t know the answer to your question.I guess again I should have asked.I figured if he didn’t have time to build traps he really didn’t want to talk on phone all day.He did take my number in case he gets some put together.

Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468423
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WCS does own the CDR. Or I should say I believe they do as it was Alan Huot founder of WCS that was a ?financial backer/partner? with Kurt Beauregard on the CDR and maybe the KBs as well. I know Alan appeared to be the biggest vendor of KB products and to this day WCS is the only place to get some of the KB coni stand designs. Alan bought up the rights to the CDR when Kurt retired. Alan has since sold WCS to another consortium so I assume rights went in that sale.
Don't know who bought the rights to the KB550.


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468426
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Those coon creek parts sounds like new/old stock from one of the transitions in ownership.


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Re: CDR manufacturing history.. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7468686
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Kurt and Alan were partners on the CDR, they split about the time Kurt quit making his trap and he sold the Stablizer. I would like to see him start making those KB's again, they really opened my eyes as to what makes a trap function well. As far as I know Kurt didn't have a partner on the KB or his other products, he had a neat deal for bending drags I did thousands of them when he first started made other products---staple rake, sifter(with a slide bottom), boot hanger, fur hangers, bear snare thrower etc

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Carl
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Originally Posted by Minker
Carl
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Fixed it.

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Which ones are the best, or are they all about equal?

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