Re: Charging stations
[Re: BuckMink]
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Depends on the "entertainment" they provide while your waiting. Heavy rains and puddles come to mind regarding entertainment... And an accidental short in the wiring
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 11:57 AM
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Does anyone actually have one or know how long it takes to charge? How many miles can it get on a charge? Does speed matter on battery drainage? Can they pull anything? Do they make 4x4’s and if so can they get messed up with bogging? I'll try. Charging time depends on size of charger. Apparently fast charging like these stations( 50KW) will reduce the lifetime of your battery bank due to heat. I think all of them come with level 1 charging which is about 1KWH per hour when you plug into a120 v receptacle . Level 2 charging at home is probably going to cost you money for upgrades and may require utility upgrades. These are in the 12KW to 20KW range. The milage claim is roughly 3 miles per KWH. However these milage claims are not field proven. Motor trend field tested maybe ten different models and none got the rated milage. The overall milage range of the vehicle will degrade over time as the battery degrades. Speed matters, and driving style. They can pull stuff. They are heavier than an ICE vehicle, so they should have more momentum. Power of the vehicle does not seem to be an issue.
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 12:36 PM
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What does the running the battery to heat and defrost in the winter do to the mileage claims or running the ac in the summer? I’ll bet the mileage claims don’t include those factors. Running the heat in the winter uses battery power. Running heat in the winter in ICE vehicle mostly uses waste heat. Running an AC in both EV and ICE reduces milage.
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 01:22 PM
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Tofu - correction buddy. Nobody laughs at a real American man driving an F-350 diesel. In fact, who do you think will build the charging stations? I would like to see a charging station built only by electric power with materials made only by products produced by electricity.
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 03:50 PM
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A friend was telling me recently that manufacture of the batteries for these electric vehicles is so energy consumptive that you need to drive a full size electric car or truck 50,000 miles on green electricity before the energy savings breaks even with a gasoline burner. Of course, if you are charging them with electricity generated from coal or natural gas, it would take even longer than that. I'll bet the batteries are junk and need to be replaced about that time.
I know if one of those batteries catches on fire, it can take 4 - 10 hours of constant cooling water flow before the fire from "thermal runaway" finally stops re-igniting. I've heard stories of the battery fires even re-kindling up to a week later. We're talking up to 30,000 gallons of water to extinguish an electric car fire. And, the water runoff from extinguishing the batter fire is a hazardous material spill. I sure hope they don't catch on fire very often!
I guess I"ve always been a motorhead. I love the smell of gasoline and oil. I'll take a V-8 every time! VROOOOM!
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Re: Charging stations
[Re: K52]
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01/21/22 05:32 PM
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What does the running the battery to heat and defrost in the winter do to the mileage claims or running the ac in the summer? I’ll bet the mileage claims don’t include those factors. All the government claims are best case scenario, and they lie to steer people in the direction they want you to go.
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 06:08 PM
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Kart29 say's I know if one of those batteries catches on fire, it can take 4 - 10 hours of constant cooling water flow before the fire from "thermal runaway" finally stops re-igniting. Any one putting out electrical fires knows you don't use water on them you use foam, we put fires out all the time on the large ore trucks in the mine, as they have large battery sets in them to run the brakes, foam shuts them down almost instantly, there is no thermal development, Just some info is all !!
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: Charging stations
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I wonder if an E vechile will get 190,000 mi on her, with very little maintenance?
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 08:41 PM
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I can sure picture alot of broke down vehicles on the side of the road.
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Re: Charging stations
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I think an investment in an internal combustion engine tow truck could pay for itself if you live close to a major highway.
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Re: Charging stations
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Won't be long before there will not be any civilian combustible engines on the road any more, already a couple company's saying they are stopping the building of those and going to EV's only !
Remember when McDonalds was only a quarter for a burger, now look at it, you can't even get real burger anymore for $8.00 Be time to go back to horses.
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Re: Charging stations
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01/21/22 09:49 PM
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Won't be long before there will not be any civilian combustible engines on the road any more, already a couple company's saying they are stopping the building of those and going to EV's only !
Remember when McDonalds was only a quarter for a burger, now look at it, you can't even get real burger anymore for $8.00 Be time to go back to horses. For burgers ??
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