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Accuracy in your area #7470584
01/23/22 09:39 PM
01/23/22 09:39 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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So im just curious about this as kinda .. regional type of thing I guess. Where y'all are from do folks consider ,like a good shooter ? Not talking about y'all personally just what y'all seen from otheres.See down here in my area the common thing is guns are sighted in like 25yd or 50 and if you can impact somewhere on a piece of copy paper @ 100yd your more then qualified for the deer woods. Like I remember at get togethers someone would take a 5gal bucket full of water and put it at the end of the cow pasture ( like 250 max) and if you could hit that you where considered some kinda sniper or something lol crazy Saw alot of money changing hands over them matches lol . Bore sighting at the pawn shop then heading straight to the woods is suuuuuper common as well. Actually gotten it along of arguments at the range when I was doing load testing. Especially with my .243

But I see guys out west and it's like if your from out that way ,your gun is gonna be shooting a ragged hole. That's just the standard out there. You know popping coyotes @300 is like a average thing it seems.
Then in UP it seems to be kinda a mix of the two .

Anyway wanted to see what it was like for everyone

Last edited by Wolfdog91; 01/23/22 10:37 PM.
Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470594
01/23/22 09:41 PM
01/23/22 09:41 PM
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Wolf, you know us southerners regularly drop em on the run at 300 while standing in a pine thicket. LOL


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: warrior] #7470600
01/23/22 09:45 PM
01/23/22 09:45 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Originally Posted by warrior
Wolf, you know us southerners regularly drop em on the run at 300 while standing in a pine thicket. LOL

Hay hay hay you would see what some of them dog runners will do laugh

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470613
01/23/22 09:52 PM
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I'm in northern alberta and yes there are places and times where a guy only has to shoot 50 yds but I'd say 75% of my hunting involves taking animals over 250 yds. I use a variety of rifles (243 win, 257 wby, 26 nosler and 338 wm) depending on which way the wind blows. I look for 1.5" group at a 100 and I'm happy. The 257,26 and 338 will do about a .75" group at a 100. With the confidence I have in my rifles I don't mind stretching the legs on them out to 700 yds or so.

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470629
01/23/22 10:06 PM
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monadnock region New Hampshire
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i think more deer/game animals are shot under 100 yards than over. east of the Mississippi river anyway. when i was young there were more 30-30 lever guns than scoped bolt actions/autos in the racks of most michigan camps i visited.

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470630
01/23/22 10:08 PM
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200 yard zero here and hit a 8 inch gong at 600 700 and 800 yards but mostly hunting shots within 500.

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470634
01/23/22 10:10 PM
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aim small and miss small.....I do not pay attention to others shooting, just worry about myself. I shoot well or fix the issue.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470641
01/23/22 10:15 PM
01/23/22 10:15 PM
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Ohio
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max is usually 100 here, if I plan on shooting I always at least see where my shots were gonna be at 200..300 and dial as needed. I dont like surprises, and you need to make good ethical kills. I always thought that was common sense, not dial at 50 and blast away at something 300 yards. Im sure it happens more than i wana know.

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470644
01/23/22 10:16 PM
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I hunt in Eastern NC. We need “beanfield rifles” on our land. Fields shots start at 250 yards and grow. Many of our wood lanes offer 200+ yard shots.

It is very important in the woods to anchor a deer in the lane, else recovery odds become difficult. This means high shoulder shots or neck shots.

My deer rifles normally shoot 1.5 moa or better. Mostly better. Leupold scopes and Jewell, Timney, or Triggertech triggers are very important for precise shooting. My go to rifles are tweaked Rem 700s.

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470645
01/23/22 10:17 PM
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I don't think its regional as much as personal preference. Unless you are talking open country and such. My neighbor hunts with a scoped 270 ..... I find that if you want to take a shot here at 100 yards or over, ya need a weed eater in your hunting pack so I shoot a old mod 94 with peep sights in 30-30 flavor around here. whatever floats yer boat I guess. Being able to hit a soda can at a 100 yards is good enough for putting meat in the freezer so its good enough for me when I am hunting. when I have my zen time at my range it has to be sub MOA so i take other rifles along for those games and the 30-30 stays on the boat then


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470649
01/23/22 10:18 PM
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We have an assortment of poke & hope guys and gals out here as well, disgusting. Once had a guy say his father told him when hunting elk a five gallon bucket on its side at a hundred yards was plenty good enough. I asked him if he knew he was gonna get shot would he rather be shot in the brain or in the gut with no possible medical help. Said he had never thought about it that way.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470666
01/23/22 10:27 PM
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Depending on the gun and cartridge:
Some are zeroed at 100 and I shoot max 1/2” groups, usually ragged holes.
I am confident killing an animal out to 300 yards.
Others are zeroed at 200 and I shoot max of 1” groups.
I am confident killing an animal out to 500 yards.

My 12 ga. slug gun will shoot 1”-2” groups out to 250 yards. It is a bit of a hot rod. I am confident making one shot clean kills on deer out to 200 yards.

In my state deer gun season, the number of shots in ratio to missed, wounded, and killed deer my estimate is that many people are shooting between 50 and 100moa.

Fortunately I grew up in a rural area long ago where I was able to shoot a lot. Plus, .22 ammunition was 40 cents a box. A buddy and I constantly coached each other shooting rifles, handguns, shotguns, longbows, recurves, and later compounds.

In college, the ROTC had a competition pistol and rifle team and a nice range. While not in ROTC so not eligible for the team, I shot practice with them. Many days, I had a handgun in my book bag. That probably is no longer permitted.

When coon hunting I didn’t want my dogs injured so the rule was one shot kills. I used a Ruger Mark II target model with a 5.5” bull barrel. My wife was plenty good with her handgun, but lacked the confidence so she used a Marlin 39 carbine. One January night, my son “winged” a big old scarred-up boar. It fell from the top of a tall White Oak, bounced once, and the fight was on between it and my two best female English hounds. I waded in and scooped up the coon by the back of the neck and shot it in the head. It had nicked a vein in the ear on the red English hound so blood was all over her head and neck. We went home and gave her a bit of a bubble bath, put on medicine, and slipped on a section cut from panty hose to stop the ear shaking. I gave her some treats and tucked her into bed.

I am very fortunate to belong to two private gun clubs that have different types of facilities and ranges. They are very impressive and provide fantastic resources for a very reasonable cost.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470692
01/23/22 10:46 PM
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The shootable range all depends on the firearm. We shoot 2 liter bottles full of water with my .204 at 1000 meters, which is 1093.62 yards. Diane has never missed yet with the .204 at 1000 meters. I sometimes miss. If I have not shot the 204 for a while, I sometimes have a hard time getting my eye the right distance from the scope and get a shadow.

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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470698
01/23/22 10:47 PM
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Can't hunt with rifles in my state (except .22 for squirrels). So most rifle shooting is done at the range or in back yards. So we are mostly punching paper so there is some attention to accuracy. Since you can't put food on the table with a rifle, accuracy is the only reason to go out and shoot. The guys I know typically sight in at 100yds - 200yds. A lot of guys sight in AR's at 300yds, although there are few places to shoot that distance.

If you're a "good" shooter, shooting in the top 20% here, you're probably shooting 1MOA consistently.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470747
01/23/22 11:19 PM
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Duplicate.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470784
01/23/22 11:54 PM
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Most everyone around here wants their 3 shot group at 100 to be covered with a nickel. Yes, that’s in a sled of some sort where all you’re doing is pulling the trigger, but that’s sighted in. That way if anyone ever needs a spare rifle and you loan them one of yours, if they miss it doesn’t reflect on you, lol. All our rifles get shot prior to season every year. Doesn’t matter which rifle either. Even if we stick to archery all year, we know if that rifle is needed, it has been verified to be on prior to the opening of gun season. And that’s everything from .22’s to the highest caliber you or your buddies have. We’ll even swap guns around after sighting just to double check ourselves. I’ve always thought the paper plate thing was amongst bow hunters, and I won’t go there!!

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470835
01/24/22 12:56 AM
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We have killed 6 caribou over the past 13 months. Shortest shot was 155 yds, longest 356 yds. My expectation is to hit a dinner plate at 350-400 yds. I think that works out to around 1.5-2 inches at 100. Works for us.

Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470891
01/24/22 07:13 AM
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As a kid, when I was learning to shoot a rifle for deer in the U P, the goal was to be able to consistently hit a six inch circle from 75 yards standing, without a rest. We didn't shoot more than we needed; ammo was not to be wasted. Shooting was only a small part of learning to hunt.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470916
01/24/22 07:52 AM
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I know a LOT of shooters incapable of MOA shooting.

I like to sight in my hi-powers/ test loads/ break in new guns, at 300 yards. I shoot over a pickup hood in a row crop field when the ground is froze so I can drive back and forth. Shooting into a hedgerow with a rail road track behind it. Track bed has been built up about ten feet and makes a good back stop. I like to shoot on windless days. Friend has a real nice range in his back yard but I dont like to be a pest. He invites me over a couple times a year. Has a bench, set up for clay pigeons, 22's. Really nice.

If I can put bullets into a tea cup saucer size circle at that distance I am happy . So I guess MOA is working for me and always has.

My 22 hornet is sighted in at 100 and my 223 at 200. 22 rifles at 50 and I am happy with a pistol that will shoot a quarter at 25 from a rest. ( only a few of mine will)

I started shooting/hunting in Colorado and now I live in KS so its easier to put meat in the freezer and fur on a stretcher if you can shoot to 400 yards.

Friend I used to coon hunt with bought a new 22 rifle every year cause the one he had wouldnt shoot. We would go coon hunting and he couldnt shoot a coon in the head at 20 yards sitting still in a tree. It was funny. So I did all the shooting. He never missed with a shotgun. Grew up in western KS with shotguns hunting birds squirrels and rabbits. Never learned to aim instead of point. Got more than a little mad if anybody tried to give him pointers.

I think a lot of boys and men don't want lessons even from an accomplished shooter. Girls dont seem to have that problem. I think that is why so many women are great shots.


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Re: Accuracy in your area [Re: Wolfdog91] #7470920
01/24/22 07:59 AM
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I like my hunting rifles to be as accurate as any. I hunt in the mountains, in the thickest parts I can find where you might need to shoot through a small hole in the brush.

Dead on out to 100, not an inch high at so and so. I also have field guns which I also carried when I hunted out west. Those I had dead on at 250.

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