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Corporal punishment? #7481560
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My great nephew was over on Christmas day for a while. Same as Thanksgiving. He is 8 and a complete terror. Running around constantly, punching and hitting, jumping on furniture and not listening to his mother and father. NO's and Settle down's from mom and dad had no effect whatsoever. My niece apologized a couple of times and said he was diagnosed with ADHD. I call BS! A good smack on the buttocks would have solved the problem. I almost did it myself a few times but didn't want to alienate my niece and her husband (we don't see them that much). A good smack on the rump will end things quickly, let kids know that the behavior won't be tolerated and is an education on civil manners. I think most of this ADHD and other crap is nothing more than an excuse for poor parenting or people that don't know how to parent. I'll give that caveat of maybe 15% actually have a real problem and that is being generous.

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Yup. Early whoopings leads to only having to give "the look".

My kids know "the look". LOL!!! Most of the time I can just say their first name and give "the look" and things change quickly.

Son is the one of the smartest in his class and daughter just earned her associate degree at 17. Don't tell me it damages their psyche or some other crap like that.

It's biblical.


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Re: Corporal punishment? [Re: Finster] #7481579
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The above being said, I think my niece is a loving parent but has no real idea how to parent effectively.


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There's a huge difference between child abuse and a quick corporal correction, which is the only truly effective way to discipline a child before they are old enough to have a well developed sense of empathy. Sadly most people can't grasp that now. Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Part of loving a child or anyone else, is doing what's best, even when it hurts, which in the case of correcting a small child can be quite literal.

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Originally Posted by Finster
My great nephew was over on Christmas day for a while. Same as Thanksgiving. He is 8 and a complete terror. Running around constantly, punching and hitting, jumping on furniture and not listening to his mother and father. NO's and Settle down's from mom and dad had no effect whatsoever. My niece apologized a couple of times and said he was diagnosed with ADHD. I call BS! A good smack on the buttocks would have solved the problem. I almost did it myself a few times but didn't want to alienate my niece and her husband (we don't see them that much). A good smack on the rump will end things quickly, let kids know that the behavior won't be tolerated and is an education on civil manners. I think most of this ADHD and other crap is nothing more than an excuse for poor parenting or people that don't know how to parent. I'll give that caveat of maybe 15% actually have a real problem and that is being generous.



I have no kids but I COMPLETELY agree with you. Most kids these days need a good crack across the backside just to get their attention and to let them know who the boss is.


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There is something about the sound of leather exiting belt loops in a hurry, that a kid don’t soon forget. Use to send me and my brothers looking for higher ground as fast as we could move. cry

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IF you had watched a child with ADHD you would know a slap on the butt is not going to solve anything.
Before getting too judgmental I would do a little research or reading on ADHD.


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I like to think I'm enough smarter than a child that I can find a way to make them behave without hitting them.

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Originally Posted by Getting There
IF you had watched a child with ADHD you would know a slap on the butt is not going to solve anything.
Before getting too judgmental I would do a little research or reading on ADHD.

That's only if the diagnosis is correct. I believe that most aren't and done by quack doctors. Lord only knows what I would have had back in the 70's if these quacks existed and people believed it.


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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I like to think I'm enough smarter than a child that I can find a way to make them behave without hitting them.

Meh, we are not talking child abuse here. We are talking corrective action with no harm other than knowledge and understanding given at the primal instinct that any animal understands.


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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I like to think I'm enough smarter than a child that I can find a way to make them behave without hitting them.

Meh, we are not talking child abuse here. We are talking corrective action with no harm other than knowledge and understanding given at the primal instinct that any animal understands.


My mistake I thought you talking about hitting the kid because you're not smart enough to find another way to make them behave. smile

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What are you going to do when the "corrective action with no harm other than knowledge and understanding given at the primal instinct" doesn't work? Hit them harder, more often?

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~


My mistake I thought you talking about hitting the kid because you're not smart enough to find another way to make them behave. smile

[ Don't get snippy, I'm just debating my opinion.

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Who's snippy? I put a smile on there.

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
What are you going to do when the "corrective action with no harm other than knowledge and understanding given at the primal instinct" doesn't work? Hit them harder, more often?

Reading into it. That's not what I said. How about controlling your emotions a little. We can have a civil discussion about it but you are already off the rails.


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I had my fair share of arse whoopings as a kid. My Dad got no joy from them but they were certainly effective. Each and every one of them I earned all on my own.


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I never hit my kids. EVER!!!

Raising young children requires basic understanding. Cookie good. Pain bad.

The pain may be from denial of what they want, standing in a corner and not moving, or as a last resort, a spanking.

When I hear people start talking about comparing spanking to hitting I think the same of their methods of parenting as they think of mine. I can count on one hand how many times I spanked each child. I didn't bruise anything on them. I don't think their skin even turned red. It was an attention getter at the top of the punishment ladder that they deserved because they didn't listen and were too wound up.

Spanking is not hitting. Kids were raised on corporal punishment for centuries. Then Dr. Spock and other "smarter" shrinks decided it was evil.

In looking at a lot of kids of today and their parents who were raised in this fashion, I do not see better kids or results. When I was a young elementary kid who got spankings, chewing gum was the biggest problem in school. Think about the big problems in today's elementary schools where kids do not get discipline at home or at school.

Good grief!!!


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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I never hit my kids. EVER!!!

Raising young children requires basic understanding. Cookie good. Pain bad.

The pain may be from denial of what they want, standing in a corner and not moving, or as a last resort, a spanking.

When I hear people start talking about comparing spanking to hitting I think the same of their methods of parenting as they think of mine. I can count on one hand how many times I spanked each child. I didn't bruise anything on them. I don't think their skin even turned red. It was an attention getter at the top of the punishment ladder that they deserved because they didn't listen and were too wound up.

Spanking is not hitting. Kids were raised on corporal punishment for centuries. Then Dr. Spock and other "smarter" shrinks decided it was evil.

In looking at a lot of kids of today and their parents who were raised in this fashion, I do not see better kids or results. When I was a young elementary kid who got spankings, chewing gum was the biggest problem in school. Think about the big problems in today's elementary schools where kids do not get discipline at home or at school.

Good grief!!!

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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
What are you going to do when the "corrective action with no harm other than knowledge and understanding given at the primal instinct" doesn't work? Hit them harder, more often?

Reading into it. That's not what I said. How about controlling your emotions a little. We can have a civil discussion about it but you are already off the rails.


I just read what you wrote. I didn't read into it, in fact I quoted it word for word. You think its ok to hit kids, I don't. There are better ways to make them behave than beating them. It's not my fault if people aren't smart enough or are too lazy to figure those ways out.

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