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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489310
02/08/22 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Is going to testify in our state legislature regarding a bill addressing ghost guns.

He probably could use some prayer.



OK, Hobbie. I'll stay on point. Prayers sent, if he's for shutting down the legislation. Looks like the 2020 attempts failed 1 HB, 1 SB, also looks like their already against the law in Baltimore where they have seized quite a few. But only face local civil charges on first offense. Criminal mist. For second.

Scuba, cool what's it gonna be when it grows up?
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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489315
02/08/22 03:38 PM
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the issue is Tofan they are selling these ideas to the uniformed masses that it will prevent crime , prevent murder

it is a dangerously slippery slope when is a block of steel automatically a gun because it could just be a zero percent lower

a solution that ensures the publics ability to continue to build arms is essential.

for NO Mater how you abuse your law abiding you will never keep the criminal from evil deeds.

every abuse of the law abiding to gain control in the name of safety is a crime against the people


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489319
02/08/22 03:43 PM
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I honestly don't know why some join here after reading their posts for awhile.

Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: danny clifton] #7489347
02/08/22 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Tofan are you from China or something? or just a communist plant trying to get people upset?


He’s one of those people that leave their safety to somebody else.


-Goofy-
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489354
02/08/22 04:27 PM
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I doubt many criminals are going to make a gun when stealing one is so much easier. lol


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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489364
02/08/22 04:32 PM
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If you are of the opinion that violent felons should still be able to own firearms, then I understand your opinion completely, we will agree to disagree on that principle.


I am of the opinion that violent felons should be left in prison. If they are in a cage they pose no threat to the public. P.S. Express your opinion as often as you like. I just want to know how you conceive of them ? You say on one hand laws don't protect the public then say why your in favor of trampling on the law abiding. Sure sounds like Chinese style communism to me.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489374
02/08/22 04:42 PM
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@ Hobie

Only a bootlicker makes a comment like that, I'll put a mental note by your name.

@Danny Absolutely, if criminals were actually punished we wouldn't be so far down this road. My opinions on this topic is because I am a federal firearms licensee who manufactures machine guns, suppressors and other cool weapons. I also have my firearm import license. I have a lot of firsthand knowledge of the ATF agents who are great people and why a lot of these proposals came to light.

I never said I support the proposal, only the reasons behind it and why some of them make sense to me.

Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: Tofan] #7489379
02/08/22 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tofan
@ Hobie

Only a bootlicker makes a comment like that, I'll put a mental note by your name.

@Danny Absolutely, if criminals were actually punished we wouldn't be so far down this road. My opinions on this topic is because I am a federal firearms licensee who manufactures machine guns, suppressors and other cool weapons. I also have my firearm import license. I have a lot of firsthand knowledge of the ATF agents who are great people and why a lot of these proposals came to light.

I never said I support the proposal, only the reasons behind it and why some of them make sense to me.


You’re the one making bootlicking statements, already had a note by your name. lol

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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489385
02/08/22 04:54 PM
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The only bootlicker here is the quisling who sold his birthright of liberty for a permission slip.

Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: warrior] #7489398
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Originally Posted by warrior
The only bootlicker here is the quisling who sold his birthright of liberty for a permission slip.



Did that mentality do anything for you ever? Or did you sit back and criticize everybody instead of taking real action?

Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489399
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The thing about ATF agents is nobody forced them to fill out that job application. I dont need to know anything else. They don't believe in free people and I do.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489409
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Tofan when guys were let out of prison they used to give them their guns back. Either they are safe to be on the street or not. If not keep them locked if they are they have the same right to protect themselves as you and I.

Face it further restrictions never stop or slow down crime. More often it creates a bigger black market. It only effects the law abiding. So it's not about stoping or reducing crime just one more incremental step in gun restriction. That's all.

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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489420
02/08/22 05:51 PM
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Please describe your definition of a bootlicker .I always thought they were the NAZI soldiers who followed Hitler .Funny how name calling is OK with liberals until someone says it back to them .I do my best to not call names , but when others start calling names , then     IT'S OPEN SEASON .I first heard of ZIP GUNS  in the 50's  and just wonder why they weren't the problem that ghost guns are now ?Seems to me society has gone soft on discipline and like good little liberal democrat followers blame guns for everything .This law or bill they're trying to pass has nothing to do with most people , but it effects everyone's rights .You can have your opinion , but don't push it to become law on others !
This law also won't stop criminals .
In their minds , nothing is against the law unless caught .
Just look at Prohibition and how crime took over and became worse. Look at the laws on pot  , it didn't stop people from getting it of using it .It just made criminals rich..A lot of politicians also got rich from the bottom on up .

Last edited by Ohio Wolverine; 02/08/22 05:58 PM.

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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489444
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“Ghost guns”. Just another fabricated term intended to scare the general public who don’t know what they are. Watch out or those “ghost guns” will get you.

Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489465
02/08/22 06:39 PM
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Tofan at least be honest about it. You see people making their own firearms as a lost profit for your pocket.


I do all my own stunts ... but never intentionally ... Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: danny clifton] #7489466
02/08/22 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
The thing about ATF agents is nobody forced them to fill out that job application. I dont need to know anything else. They don't believe in free people and I do.


x2


I do all my own stunts ... but never intentionally ... Let's go Brandon

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Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: Providence Farm] #7489469
02/08/22 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Tofan when guys were let out of prison they used to give them their guns back. Either they are safe to be on the street or not. If not keep them locked if they are they have the same right to protect themselves as you and I.

Face it further restrictions never stop or slow down crime. More often it creates a bigger black market. It only effects the law abiding. So it's not about stoping or reducing crime just one more incremental step in gun restriction. That's all.


This. Sounds like Tofan supports banning ghost guns because they might cut into his bottom line.

The federal government knows we own 4 guns... and that's 4 too many in my book.


~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: yotetrapper30] #7489496
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


This. Sounds like Tofan supports banning ghost guns because they might cut into his bottom line.

The federal government knows we own 4 guns... and that's 4 too many in my book.


I agree with you about 4 too many, unfortunately we are well past that point. Also I encourage every American citizen who can legally own a firearm to build them vs buy. It gives you a much better understanding and appreciation for the firearm. I am in the completely different market, ghost guns business wise not even something I ever think about.

Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7489756
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Good to hear this sheriff supports people's rights, we need more like him.


United we stand,divided we fall.
Re: Just Learned Our Sheriff [Re: Tofan] #7489763
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Originally Posted by Tofan
You guys are still going to be able to build your own firearm, there just will be a serial number and record of who purchased it. Not any different from buying a gun from the local firearms store.

They could get this info now from the 80% manufacturers, just no serial number on it.




Good grief. I feel like we are being infiltrated here. How can you agree with everything being recorded? Too many records of things that shouldn't need to be recorded already.

No matter what you say, the atf and their constant changing regulations are useless as a rubber beak on a woodpecker.


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