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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498591
02/16/22 05:10 PM
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the Blak Spot Offline OP
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Getting interesting


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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498629
02/16/22 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
Getting interesting

You are the only one here having a rapport with the owner.
Be honest with yourself, trade shoes, reverse roles in your mind and think deeply about it.
Say a little prayer and most likely you will do whats best for all.
And, I bet you get to go back !

Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498676
02/16/22 06:46 PM
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My friend has a 100 acre farm he just inherited. A groundhog hunter said he would hunt groundhogs and not charge him. He looked at me and I looked at him, with both of our eyes rolled and laughed. We both knew that he charged big bucks for his acreage for deer hunting. As for the OPs question, sounds like that 1000 acres is all you need for a fur trapline, other guys go way further with more stops for a lot less fur I would bet. Or let it go for a few years and when he has 3 fish left tell him fur doesnt pay but you could charge him accordingly.

Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498716
02/16/22 07:30 PM
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Thats sad that people are so crowded up now they will pay to hunt a hundred acres


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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498718
02/16/22 07:31 PM
02/16/22 07:31 PM
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What if you had a farm, and for some reason you couldn't harvest all of your... say... tomatoes before they went bad so you invited someone over to do it in exchange for them keeping the tomatoes. They come, pick them all summer long and take them home. Then come September they come back and say, "hey man, it was nice of you to let me pick your tomatoes this year, but when I sold them all at the farmer's market I only got $0.50/lb because there were too many other people there selling them. So, you're going to need to pay me for all the time I spent picking them."

What would you say to that person. I know what I would say.


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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498742
02/16/22 08:02 PM
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I feel like this is similar to “ if I catch 40 coyotes on my buddy’s cattle ranch, but prices are down and those 40 dead coyotes maybe mean another calf gets to market in the fall, then maybe I should get half that money because I saved that calf.”

And that idea is crazy. I’ll just be happy I get the pleasure of doing what I do on the lands people let me access and not give them any reason to think I’m a real selfish jerk and send me packing.

Last edited by rvsask; 02/16/22 08:03 PM.
Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498748
02/16/22 08:07 PM
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Nothing wrong with telling somebody you want paid to remove wild animals. Nothing wrong with doing it for free either. Should be all worked out though before the first trap gets set


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: Willy Firewood] #7498761
02/16/22 08:21 PM
02/16/22 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Obviously you are not in business doing this type of work. If you were you would not be asking this question. Therefore you should not try to create the illusion that you are in the business to retroactively collect payment for non-business services.

There are big differences between fur trapping, hobby trapping, long-line fur trapping, nuisance wildlife trapping, and predator management trapping.

When Swamp Wolf or Savell or Steeltraps or others graciously create a ridealong or singalong it can look fun and easy. But running a business and doing this for a living gets very real. People skills, perceptions, marketing, and agreements are important.

There is too much to know to type here.


Yep. BS, you have what you set up initially.
If you wish to have a different arrangement on the next situation like this, set it up from the git go.

30 days? $500 in fur? Cool, that's trapping for R&R and that's wonderful if you enjoy and can trap for R&R at $15/day.

I trap for fur and I trap for predation control and they are polar opposites, Not my methods. What I expect to make. When I bust tail all day, I get paid for all day and I'm not 21 years old working for nickels. I figure an hourly wage x 24 hours if I stay on the ranch = daily fee, or I might charge a project fee sometimes (not often).

Good luck sir.
Blessings,
Mark

Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498853
02/16/22 09:31 PM
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I have trapped a property for a turkey before, but that was discussed prior to trapping. I really can’t believe the initial post was serious…unless he asked you to trap to remove them.

Heck if I caught those numbers on my properties that would be over $5K and I’m cheap, lol.

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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498939
02/16/22 10:20 PM
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Spot, unless they asked you I guess there is no choice but to do it for the fur....this season.

Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498946
02/16/22 10:22 PM
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JMO, but if you ain't making money at it then quit!
If you enjoy catching critters then by all means do so but quit complaining.


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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7498962
02/16/22 10:31 PM
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You keep saying interesting but haven't answered folks questions. Did you agree to trap it before mentioning compensation ? Were you trapping it when otter were 100 bucks ? Lots of great comments. Are you trying make more from fur trapping or you getting into damage control ? Daily wage would be my suggestion for next time unless you're just wishing for more $ fur trapping. By the head usually sux especially if you return every year.. you're getting penalized for doing good job.

Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7499135
02/17/22 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
Just gonna throw this out there, but let’s say I trap 1000 acre fish farm. For one month. And I catch six otters, 50 coon, 50 mink, 50 possum, and 20 beavers. Let’s say that adds up to $500 that I would get from a local for sale. Do you think that the owner of the fish farm would add a $500-$1000 worth of compensation for low fur prices(catching just those six otter probably saved $800-$1000 of fish in one month)? If so how would you approach the owner for that compensation?
(FYI: friend of mine pointed out that otter eat probably 4 to 5 pounds of fish a day)

Guess I should have been clearer when I wrote “but let’s say”, that equals hypothetical. Sorry for the confusion.


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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: the Blak Spot] #7499262
02/17/22 08:15 AM
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Re: •••Compensation•••? [Re: GritGuy] #7499289
02/17/22 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
You need to read Coonman's thread !!

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