Annealing stainless
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My search and google-fu have failed me.
I need to smash some stainless nuts. Does stainless need to be annealed? Will that change any of the properties as far as being stainless? This will be in a marine environment, submerged with the tides. Mixing in mud and sand to make things as corrosive as possible.
Inquiring minds that want to know.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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I use stainless nuts on stainless cable for my trap extensions. I have never had a problem. No need to anneal.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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What eagle eye means to say is Tis too complicated to bother with.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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Like EagleEye said, nuts are most likely 304.
It can be annealed but it also work hardens. As soon as you hit it with the hammer, it will be hard again.
That said, I've crushed 304 stainless nuts before. A few will crack, probably from the work hardening, but most worked fine. By crushing them, I'm making them brittle but they were still strong enough to work. I wouldn't trust them if I was building some sort of cable system I needed to save my life but on snares it should be fine.
If you're having problems, you might have nuts made of some other type of SS. 304 is the most common but nuts are available in other types of stainless. Try ordering 303 nuts. 303 isn't as hard and doesn't work harden as readily as 304. No idea how much 303 nuts would cost though.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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02/26/22 10:32 AM
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Yes, stainless will work harden, but as far as crushing nuts, the more times you hit it, the worse it is. Use a big hammer, and get the job done with few hits! If you aneal, keep the temp down, as the alloys will migratewhen heated above the critical temp. To. keep that from happening, the stainless needs a protector from the atmosphere! As in when welding, it uses a shielding gas to accomplish this. The result of heating above the critical range without protection, is what is known as sugaring in the welding trade. Hope that helps you understand this a bit more. You would about need an oven to do the anealing, so Just use a bigger hammer! Good luck.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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Holy Moses. I see I tapped an inner geek or two. There’s a lot of cool and interesting information here. It’s more than the standard toss them in the wood stove like normal. Thank you.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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OK here is the German enginerding perspective. To do the job to suffice for the intended purpose, you need a bigger hammer to get the job done in as few whacks as possible. Forget about all the rest, have a drink and sleep easy before setting them wires.
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Re: Annealing stainless
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Holy Moses. I see I tapped an inner geek or two. There’s a lot of cool and interesting information here. It’s more than the standard toss them in the wood stove like normal. Thank you.
Owl
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Re: Annealing stainless
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Nothing to do with geeks, it’s what some of us do/did everyday for a living! It’s all about geeks. It’s what people do. Heck, I geek out about power saws and electricity, that’s what I do everyday for a living. I’ll grab a big hammer and get after it. I do actually appreciate the more intense information, it caused me to look up a few things and learned some stuff along the way. Pretty cool. Owl
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