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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7509182
02/25/22 08:20 PM
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Well you are entitled to your opinion and hope things change, don't throw the baby out with the dirty bath water. Enough discussion for me headed down to the VFW to drink beer with Americans that understand what freedom is and how it got here. It has never been perfect but we wouldn't have what we have with out keeping others free.

Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: danvee] #7509203
02/25/22 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Well you are entitled to your opinion and hope things change, don't throw the baby out with the dirty bath water. Enough discussion for me headed down to the VFW to drink beer with Americans that understand what freedom is and how it got here. It has never been perfect but we wouldn't have what we have with out keeping others free.


You assume a lot if you think I don't know where freedom comes from. I too swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. And supporting one dictatorship over another under the guise of "freedom" isn't it.

And you still haven't had the guts to answer why we should send kids to defend countries in Europe whose policies are the model for the current administration's erosion of our liberty.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: danvee] #7509205
02/25/22 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Your either for Democracy and America or Dictators and Russia. There will be plenty of people to defend freedom for those who don't care and more worried about the price of gas. No better country in the world than America God Bless her and anyone that believes in the freedom that we have. Go try to protest in Russia or even try to open a forum like this one. You don't know what you have and wont until it gone.


So we're going to single handedly go around the globe thumping some good old fashioned democracy into the heads of all those commies out there?

How did that work in Europe (twice), Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan?

I totally agree that the US of A is the last best hope for this poor world but folks got the want what we got and build it for themselves where ever they may be.


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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7509221
02/25/22 08:59 PM
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Too bad peoples votes don't count in russia like they do in the USA, Right??


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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: jeff karsten] #7509230
02/25/22 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff karsten
Too bad peoples votes don't count in russia like they do in the USA, Right??


Judging by the results of our last election... Not real sure they matter anywhere.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7509465
02/25/22 11:34 PM
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Of course, if you believe those were the real votes...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7509486
02/25/22 11:56 PM
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Tucker nails it of course.


Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: MattLA] #7509554
02/26/22 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tofan
If you don't think that the USA is doing everything except for physically going into Ukraine right now, you aren't paying attention.

I have been paying very close attention since first hearing of Russian troops gathering on the Ukraine border.
Please help me see what Joe's handlers have actually done since then. Then explain to me how doing virtually nothing has helped matters.

Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: 52Carl] #7509595
02/26/22 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by Tofan
If you don't think that the USA is doing everything except for physically going into Ukraine right now, you aren't paying attention.

I have been paying very close attention since first hearing of Russian troops gathering on the Ukraine border.
Please help me see what Joe's handlers have actually done since then. Then explain to me how doing virtually nothing has helped matters.


Pure conjecture here...

The "official position" is that we are not involved. But the "Snake Eaters" tend to operate outside the official channels.

If they sent any we'll never know of it

Mike


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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: 52Carl] #7509968
02/26/22 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl

I have been paying very close attention since first hearing of Russian troops gathering on the Ukraine border.
Please help me see what Joe's handlers have actually done since then. Then explain to me how doing virtually nothing has helped matters.


Almost all Russian military equipment has been destroyed with superior American equipment, along with a handful of allied equipment. This continues to be routed in day by day, hour by hour, along with food, equipment, and other necessities, you have to understand Russian military infrastructure along with how our government "operates" when they are not officially involved. Ukrainians are a tough breed, but they would have been hurt very bad at this point without our support, you don't really think they have that low of a death toll because they knew where all the strikes were coming from right by themselves? Their legacy soviet man pads didn't crush Russian helicopters, or transport planes, that was the combination of pure will to win and foreign equipment. All of this has helped Ukraine stand up to a big bully that wants to use propaganda and scare tactics to try and win support.

Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7510028
02/26/22 12:02 PM
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So what happens when Russia claims that the USA is involved because they’re being taken down by American equiptment used by the Ukrainians?

Could be easy for the Russian’s to say American’s are there attacking them even if they’re not.

Then WW111 starts.


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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7510047
02/26/22 12:16 PM
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I don't believe for a second that there are not American boots on the ground in Ukraine right now as we speak.

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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Jurassic Park] #7510056
02/26/22 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
So what happens when Russia claims that the USA is involved because they’re being taken down by American equiptment used by the Ukrainians?

Could be easy for the Russian’s to say American’s are there attacking them even if they’re not.

Then WW111 starts.


Canada should probably get one of their 4 submarines running soon.


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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Dirt] #7510062
02/26/22 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
So what happens when Russia claims that the USA is involved because they’re being taken down by American equiptment used by the Ukrainians?

Could be easy for the Russian’s to say American’s are there attacking them even if they’re not.

Then WW111 starts.


Canada should probably get one of their 4 submarines running soon.

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Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: danvee] #7510273
02/26/22 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Your either for Democracy and America or Dictators and Russia. There will be plenty of people to defend freedom for those who don't care and more worried about the price of gas. No better country in the world than America God Bless her and anyone that believes in the freedom that we have. Go try to protest in Russia or even try to open a forum like this one. You don't know what you have and wont until it gone.

Go try to protest in Canada.

Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: MattLA] #7510281
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Originally Posted by Tofan
Originally Posted by 52Carl

I have been paying very close attention since first hearing of Russian troops gathering on the Ukraine border.
Please help me see what Joe's handlers have actually done since then. Then explain to me how doing virtually nothing has helped matters.


Almost all Russian military equipment has been destroyed with superior American equipment, along with a handful of allied equipment. This continues to be routed in day by day, hour by hour, along with food, equipment, and other necessities, you have to understand Russian military infrastructure along with how our government "operates" when they are not officially involved. Ukrainians are a tough breed, but they would have been hurt very bad at this point without our support, you don't really think they have that low of a death toll because they knew where all the strikes were coming from right by themselves? Their legacy soviet man pads didn't crush Russian helicopters, or transport planes, that was the combination of pure will to win and foreign equipment. All of this has helped Ukraine stand up to a big bully that wants to use propaganda and scare tactics to try and win support.

Even cnn can not write such a rosy story of the war.

Re: One or two questions on the Ukraine [Re: Wolfdog91] #7510611
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the regime in Ukraine was installed in 2014 by obama and his admin. there was a memo out in 2019 stating that the Ukraine was the corruption money pit for all oligarchs in the world, including the Bidens, Kerry, pelosi, schiff to name a few. the Bidens to the tune of 16.5 million. Why would they be complaining? research and watch the videos of the proof that the Ukraine gov. is releasing on the proof they have.
Has the us gov. reported on the status of the 8 DOD biolabs that are there?

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