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Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7496895
02/15/22 10:22 AM
02/15/22 10:22 AM
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South Central Kansas
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Bearcat and Wrangler both of those mt lions are massive! What’s the weight on a big cat like that? Also the wolf too, what’s a big wolf weigh? I’m liking this thread and looking forward to more pics and info


Derek
Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: GritGuy] #7496897
02/15/22 10:25 AM
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South Central Kansas
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
I've been calling over 40 years now, would never stop, still get the nerves when a dog or cat moves in on my calling.

Started with a self taught open reed mouth call, did that for geez many years, then went with a remote Fox-Pro, changed my results dramatically, the sound reach was incredible.

I started with a Ruger bull barrel 22-250, with a 4 to 12 single reticle standard cross scope, shot that a year or two, then went a got me another 22-250 with a standard barrel, put a 6 to 18 on it and this was my got to gun for the next few years. I also picked up a 6mm, a 25-06, a 22 hornet, and finally I won a 204 Ruger special done for the NYT raffle about 10 years or so ago.
All them other rifles are now collecting a rest and covered up in the safe, That 204 out shoots them all and the best thing is it does not recoil you off the target like the 250 does and the bigger calibers, its a dream. I have a 6 to 20 on it with a lighted adjustable reticle it's the bee's knee's, I hand load all my guns as well. I don't use hollow points any more with the 204 or the 250, only long boat tail solids and Bergers on the 204.

I use several sounds but the go to is the rabbit scream all the time, I never mix them up until late in the season, they are always hungry, the rabbit wins 8 times out of ten, sometimes it just takes longer on a stand. Most time I stay on a stand is 30 minutes usually only 15, 30 seconds low volume 1 minute delay, 30 on again, then wait 5 minutes, nothing then I move the volume up to do it until a dog shows up or my time limit is up.

I don't get up when I shoot, I learned long ago there is usually another dog around and have been busted many times by watching a dog run off that was close enough to try and drop. I have picked up second dogs now and again by waiting and watching after about ten minutes. Not always but enough to take the time, I move a mile then make another stand, I don't shoot running dogs, I wait until they stop. Shooting out here is not like back east, you learn to be able to take them at 300 or better or wait to try and coax them in closer, young dogs usually will fall for that, later in the year the older ones will stop further out and watch the sound. They know where it is more than 700 yds out when they hear it and will come straight on until 300 or so and start to cut the wind to try and scent you, when they cut and move then stop, thats your cue, they scent something when they stop. I've ranged them with my finder, I know how far out they are most of the time

I don't use any scents or try to work the wind either, I've had to many dogs never read them hunting books or seen the vids to know they are supposed to do all that, LOL I use elevation and try to have a long view scene to watch, I hunt the five foot sage brush floors in the desert and western mountains here, where you can see for miles.

Cats are a patient persons game, they are either curious or hungry if in the area and it usually takes a half hour or more to be able to spot one where I hunt, it is incredible how they can sneak in on you with out you seeing them, then all of a sudden you seeing that face looking your way. Birds or the rabbit again, same sequence as for dogs less volume though, they don't seem to like things loud when they get close.

My fingers are sore, have a question shoot LOL
I'll watch this thread, everyone can learn all the time, nice to see this here for a change !




This was really good info. Even here in ks I don’t know how many times they’ve done the cut, stop, go, stop and I’m thinking I can coax them in more but they just leave.


Derek
Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497006
02/15/22 11:51 AM
02/15/22 11:51 AM
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Northern Maine
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Fox pro caller and 204


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Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497014
02/15/22 11:56 AM
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Been at it around 3 years. Kids got me into it like every other passion I have. Started out with the lights and picked up a cheaper thermal this year that wasn't cheap. My two youngest boys have 223. Not sure what they shoot as far as bullets. I should pay more attention to that kind of stuff. Bought a suppressor this year but still in the waiting process. Cost more than the gun. Our success rate is painfully low. The handful of times we have connected was an absolute riot. Still learning every time we go. We don't have a strong coyote population, but have a lot of night hunters. We use the Icotec sabre call and really like it. It fills a nice void when the weather gets to tough to trap or all other seasons are closed.

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497022
02/15/22 12:01 PM
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Tug Hill, NY
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A couple that came to my bait last week.

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497070
02/15/22 12:41 PM
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Northern Nevada
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Have used 204, 223, 22-250, 243 and always 12ga 3” plated bb. Mainly hand calls but have been around some of the electric callers. Mainly coyotes, it’s fun and kind of addictive!

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497104
02/15/22 01:11 PM
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I have been calling for 30 plus years. I have used 223, 22 hornet, 204, 17 rem, 220 swift 22 mag and now I have settled into a 17 hornet suppressed. The 22 mag and 17 hornet are fur friendly on fox and air them out quickly. If I was targeting only coyotes I would stick with the 204 or 223 with my handloads. I use a Foxpro caller now days, far cry from the old caller i started out with that used 50 feet of speaker wire and a seperate speaker from the cassette player. The 17 hornet can take down coyotes but shot placement is paramount with that small round. I use a Wicked head lamp in red for scanning and a Coyote red light on my scope. The night vision scopes and binocs mess with my eyes too much for my liking. I do want to try thermal though.

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497319
02/15/22 05:51 PM
02/15/22 05:51 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Well got dang ! This is goin pretty good so far !!

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: GritGuy] #7497322
02/15/22 05:53 PM
02/15/22 05:53 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
I've been calling over 40 years now, would never stop, still get the nerves when a dog or cat moves in on my calling.

Started with a self taught open reed mouth call, did that for geez many years, then went with a remote Fox-Pro, changed my results dramatically, the sound reach was incredible.

I started with a Ruger bull barrel 22-250, with a 4 to 12 single reticle standard cross scope, shot that a year or two, then went a got me another 22-250 with a standard barrel, put a 6 to 18 on it and this was my got to gun for the next few years. I also picked up a 6mm, a 25-06, a 22 hornet, and finally I won a 204 Ruger special done for the NYT raffle about 10 years or so ago.
All them other rifles are now collecting a rest and covered up in the safe, That 204 out shoots them all and the best thing is it does not recoil you off the target like the 250 does and the bigger calibers, its a dream. I have a 6 to 20 on it with a lighted adjustable reticle it's the bee's knee's, I hand load all my guns as well. I don't use hollow points any more with the 204 or the 250, only long boat tail solids and Bergers on the 204.

I use several sounds but the go to is the rabbit scream all the time, I never mix them up until late in the season, they are always hungry, the rabbit wins 8 times out of ten, sometimes it just takes longer on a stand. Most time I stay on a stand is 30 minutes usually only 15, 30 seconds low volume 1 minute delay, 30 on again, then wait 5 minutes, nothing then I move the volume up to do it until a dog shows up or my time limit is up.

I don't get up when I shoot, I learned long ago there is usually another dog around and have been busted many times by watching a dog run off that was close enough to try and drop. I have picked up second dogs now and again by waiting and watching after about ten minutes. Not always but enough to take the time, I move a mile then make another stand, I don't shoot running dogs, I wait until they stop. Shooting out here is not like back east, you learn to be able to take them at 300 or better or wait to try and coax them in closer, young dogs usually will fall for that, later in the year the older ones will stop further out and watch the sound. They know where it is more than 700 yds out when they hear it and will come straight on until 300 or so and start to cut the wind to try and scent you, when they cut and move then stop, thats your cue, they scent something when they stop. I've ranged them with my finder, I know how far out they are most of the time

I don't use any scents or try to work the wind either, I've had to many dogs never read them hunting books or seen the vids to know they are supposed to do all that, LOL I use elevation and try to have a long view scene to watch, I hunt the five foot sage brush floors in the desert and western mountains here, where you can see for miles.

Cats are a patient persons game, they are either curious or hungry if in the area and it usually takes a half hour or more to be able to spot one where I hunt, it is incredible how they can sneak in on you with out you seeing them, then all of a sudden you seeing that face looking your way. Birds or the rabbit again, same sequence as for dogs less volume though, they don't seem to like things loud when they get close.

My fingers are sore, have a question shoot LOL
I'll watch this thread, everyone can learn all the time, nice to see this here for a change !

Geeeeez that's alot of good info. So with them bergers you said solids, is that basically a FMJ deal then ?

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497432
02/15/22 07:30 PM
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Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497437
02/15/22 07:35 PM
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Iowa
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I prefer predator hunting with hounds or drives. I do a little calling but it's the archery hunting style of predator hunting, waiting for them to come to you rather than going to them I get bored with fast.

Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7497481
02/15/22 08:00 PM
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Back few years ago lol


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Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7502363
02/20/22 03:23 AM
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We called in a pair tonight, completely silent approach. Male hung up at 300+yrds. Buddy dropped this female in her tracks at 120yrds. All coyote vocals


Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7502368
02/20/22 04:39 AM
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I like hunting on the beach….

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Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7502481
02/20/22 08:35 AM
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Vince doesn't that make you the predator.
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Re: Can we get a predator hunting thread goin ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #7512835
02/28/22 05:04 PM
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