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EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application #7513722
03/01/22 01:38 PM
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The EU Parliament has accepted the Ukraine application for membership and will likely fast track the Ukraine into EU. If the EU accepts the Ukraine, the 27 member nations are obligated to immediately go to war against Russia. Because of the NATO obligations to countries, who are in both organization, the US will then also be obligated to go to war with Russia.

This is how the new, one nation, world government takes an enormous step forward.

Putin is either a useful idiot or complicit. Indian News is saying biden is the driving force behind this.

Keith

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513734
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Just like WWII, we are getting dragged into this.. The US is a member of NATO, but not the EU Parliament.They are not the same.

Putin is a very, very dangerous man, but But Biden is the useless idiot and bears much of the blame for this war because of his weakness.

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513738
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When Biden cancelled Keystone and put his stamp of approval on Nord Strom pipeline, he opened the door for Putin to finance his invasion of Ukraine. Biden caused the US to buy petroleum from Russia. You will never hear that from the corrupt main stream media. As of today, Biden has yet to criticize or condemn the Russian pipeline. Germany is the first country to refuse to buy from Russia.

For those who criticized anyone who called Putin smart, there's one thing I know one thing about Putin. I don't know if he's very smart, but he's a lot smarter than Joe Biden.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513741
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Buffet's got Joe covered.

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513752
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isn't the eu totally separate from nato?


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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513753
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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513759
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Yes, the EU is not NATO, it's an economic union, not a defense one

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: foxkidd44] #7513762
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
isn't the eu totally separate from nato?



Yes.

Any acceptance of Ukraine into the EU will take years and must be approved by ALL 27 members. Not likely to ever happen


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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: foxkidd44] #7513785
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
isn't the eu totally separate from nato?


Separate entities. However...

"The EU and NATO have 27 and 30 member states, respectively — of which 21 are members of both. Another four NATO members are EU applicants—Albania, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Turkey..."

You can be a member of one without joining the other... But for the most part they do seem to go hand in hand.

Mike


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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513787
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Originally Posted by gcs
Yes, the EU is not NATO, it's an economic union, not a defense one


There is a mutual defense clause that EU members are bound by.

"MUTUAL DEFENCE CLAUSE

The Treaty of Lisbon strengthens the solidarity between EU countries in dealing with external threats by introducing a mutual defence clause (Article 42(7) of the Treaty on European Union). This clause provides that if an EU country is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other EU countries have an obligation to aid and assist it by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.

This obligation of mutual defence is binding on all EU countries."

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/summary/glossary/mutual_defence.html

Keith

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: Trapper7] #7513789
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
When Biden cancelled Keystone and put his stamp of approval on Nord Strom pipeline, he opened the door for Putin to finance his invasion of Ukraine. Biden caused the US to buy petroleum from Russia. You will never hear that from the corrupt main stream media. As of today, Biden has yet to criticize or condemn the Russian pipeline. Germany is the first country to refuse to buy from Russia.

For those who criticized anyone who called Putin smart, there's one thing I know one thing about Putin. I don't know if he's very smart, but he's a lot smarter than Joe Biden.


A marshmellow is smarter than Brandon.

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513831
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Biden is dumber than a box of rocks.

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513848
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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513856
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Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.

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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
isn't the eu totally separate from nato?


Yes


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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513863
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Originally Posted by EdP
Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.


It costs $19.21 to produce a barrel of oil in Russia. Today, oil is at $106.00 a barrel. That's $86.79 a barrel profit for Russia for a total daily profit of $51,640,050, from just the US. That's an awful lot of money to purchase weapons to kill Ukranians with and to stock up with weapons, to kill Americans.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by EdP
Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.


It costs $19.21 to produce a barrel of oil in Russia. Today, oil is at $106.00 a barrel. That's $86.79 a barrel profit for Russia for a total daily profit of $51,640,050, from just the US. That's an awful lot of money to purchase weapons to kill Ukranians with and to stock up with weapons, to kill Americans.

Keith

That's the point I was making. We are funding the war for Russia thanks to Biden.
This is the same Biden that said no one can stand toe to toe with Putin like he can. crazy


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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by EdP
Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.


It costs $19.21 to produce a barrel of oil in Russia. Today, oil is at $106.00 a barrel. That's $86.79 a barrel profit for Russia for a total daily profit of $51,640,050, from just the US. That's an awful lot of money to purchase weapons to kill Ukranians with and to stock up with weapons, to kill Americans.

Keith



I agree with your point but just because Brent hits 106 a bbl, doesn't mean that is what Russian oil is selling for. It is generally a high sulfur, "sour" crude that sells at much lower prices than Brent or WTI.

I suspect that if we stopped importing Russian crude, our domestic fuel prices would rise even faster


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Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application [Re: KeithC] #7513909
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This is how misinformation spreads EU and NATO not the same but need to worry about Turkey and shutting off Russian vessels. Putin is backed into a corner now and no telling what he will do but it is very concerning. He is not a brilliant man and is off his rocker. He has lost face with most of the world and even in his own country, he did not think this one out. The only way I see him backing out is the world sacrificing a chunk of Ukraine and they will no give.

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Originally Posted by Trapper7
When Biden cancelled Keystone and put his stamp of approval on Nord Strom pipeline, he opened the door for Putin to finance his invasion of Ukraine. Biden caused the US to buy petroleum from Russia. You will never hear that from the corrupt main stream media. As of today, Biden has yet to criticize or condemn the Russian pipeline. Germany is the first country to refuse to buy from Russia.

For those who criticized anyone who called Putin smart, there's one thing I know one thing about Putin. I don't know if he's very smart, but he's a lot smarter than Joe Biden.



Thats not saying much. A flat possum is smarter than sniffy


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