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Baseball Strike #7514686
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Sounds like the baseball strike will shorten the baseball season. I always wondered, do baseball players still receive their salaries during a strike?


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Re: Baseball Strike [Re: Trapper7] #7514693
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They probably do but I don't think they should they are over paying them anyway. They get to do something they love to .

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Who cares?

Re: Baseball Strike [Re: Trapper7] #7514699
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Id rather watch two sittin hens fighting.


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Re: Baseball Strike [Re: Trapper7] #7514707
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They do not and this shutdown is NOT a strike! This has been an owners lockout and is entirely their fault. It is a flagrant attempt to break the players union and for two months of the lockout the owners refused to even meet with the players representatives. The two groups only met after the owners had pushed things so far back that they had great leverage over the players and every thing the owners offered were with the threat of shutdown if they did not get their way. There are a number of excellent analyses in major and minor publications today and every one that is analytical and factual concurs with my opinion voiced here. In the final analysis, the area the owners slammed the door over is actually a fight within ownership between the owners of 4 teams, Dodgers, Mets, Yankees and Red Sox who are willing to pay players better and the majority of cheapskate owners who outvote those four and wish to actually lower labor costs and keep an ever greater proportion of the immense profits for themselves. Just FACT!

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Dang.......and I thought I had problems.....


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Re: Baseball Strike [Re: Trapper7] #7514727
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If the players aren't paid during this time and the more time that goes by without a compromise or settlement causing a shortening of the season, both sides suffer financially, right?


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Re: Baseball Strike [Re: Trapper7] #7514731
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For the kids who dream of baseball and spend a decade or more in the minors making a pittance, living in cheap motels and traveling on busses, the majority of whom will never make the majors or if so, never get more than a brief look or two your problems might not seem so big. The ONLY folks fighting for them and those who do make it finally and who will have a career that now lasts less than 5 years at the lowest rate of pay that the owners are forced to pay, are the players unions. A couple years back when the owners threatened congress that if they were forced to pay minimum wages, they would shut down much of the minors, congress gave them an exemption AND THEN, they shut down about half the minors anyway!! Great fine folks you admire.

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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Id rather watch two sittin hens fighting.

Ha!


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Re: Baseball Strike [Re: Trapper7] #7514757
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I like to follow baseball and I hope things get settled soon, thank you very much cohunt, I was not aware of many things you said. I now side with the players.


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Originally Posted by Fisher Man
Who cares?


Ditto

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My son spent 8 yrs in the minors. Made it up to triple A. But only played with the big boys in spring training split squads. I don't think he has any regrets. It was a great experience.

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Originally Posted by cohunt
For the kids who dream of baseball and spend a decade or more in the minors making a pittance, living in cheap motels and traveling on busses, the majority of whom will never make the majors or if so, never get more than a brief look or two your problems might not seem so big. The ONLY folks fighting for them and those who do make it finally and who will have a career that now lasts less than 5 years at the lowest rate of pay that the owners are forced to pay, are the players unions. A couple years back when the owners threatened congress that if they were forced to pay minimum wages, they would shut down much of the minors, congress gave them an exemption AND THEN, they shut down about half the minors anyway!! Great fine folks you admire.

If you think I admire the owners, you are badly mistaken. I was only looking for information and didn't think I was giving the impression that I admired the owners. I was just thinking that by letting things drag out was stupid for the owners because of the money they would lose. Plus, if the players didn't get paid, they would be getting financially hurt as well. So, nobody is a winner, IMO.


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That one in the mid nineties is when I quit watching. Haven’t missed it !!

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Cohunt nailed it with his explanation. This is all on the owners shoulders. If we're being honest, I don't think either side needs any more money to feed their families. However, it's the owner's greediness that's holding things up. Are both sides losing money? Yes. But for the owners it's just a drop in the bucket to miss the revenue from a couple of games missed. From the players perspective, especially those not making a ton of money right now, they likely can't afford to be losing their salary like they currently are. The owners are dragging their feet on this one in an attempt to make the players union fold and give into their demands.

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I like to listen or watch baseball. If the players don't get played enough they should quit get another job that pays more . this is still a republic . not everyone. Gets major league money (average players make 4.5 million) minor leagues 500.00 to 1500.00 . so they should do what make money if I'm a owner I will try to pay as little as I can .

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I assume that everyone here does know how averages are calculated. Max Scherzer will get 43 million this year. If 9 other players all actually got paid nothing the average salary of the 10 would be 4.3 million. Players average salary peaked in 2015 and have declined since. The owners did this not by reducing actual annual salaries, but by not bringing back older players who might have played 5 or 6 years and been making the 4.5 million mentioned above and who in the previous 50-75 years of baseball might have expected to play for another 5 or more years at substantial salaries. Instead, after permitting accountants and analysts to run the operation, the owners were told that they could bring up players from the minors, pay them minimum salaries mandated by agreements and have perhaps just small reductions in production compared to the older players that they replaced. If the owners actually were not really attempting to win, as perhaps more than half are, that reduction might mean just the difference in a couple wins per season BUT about 4 million into the owners pocket. Greed like that is exactly what some on here have endorsed.

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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Sounds like the baseball strike will shorten the baseball season. I always wondered, do baseball players still receive their salaries during a strike?

No

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There is a kid from here that played in the majors for 12 years his net worth is 5.5 million. Didn't make much till later years of play.

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One of the things they are arguing about is league minimum. Right now it's 600 some thousand and the players want just over 700 thousand.

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