All we wanna know...and im not the only one wondering this....im just the one elected to make the post on this thread.......What really happens to the 25% of everyones fur that gets graded "NV" through Fur Harvesters?

I've sold thousands of pelts through fha and don't remember having any that graded NV. Every fur you catch is not high quality, but I don't send junk.

I've never seen that either. Must be a southern thing.

Well it sure isn't 25% of everyones fur, since I've never lost a pelt, so 25% of the shippers must really be getting the shaft.

My understanding is that the pelts FH grade as NV, are taken out and buried by Fish & Game. At one time I said I would take the NV pelts and do something with them. They just laughed. I don’t think they liked the idea that some one might make money off a pelt they think is worthless!!

If you’re worried about complaints as an auction house you probably should find another line of work. I liked valuations when NAFA. did them just because it gave you a general idea. Sad fact in today’s world every selling option we have can say we are lucky we’re even buying or selling your fur. To many trapping was something more than a hobby but a way to supplement your income.

Speaking of worthless/no value fur.

Nancy,

Have they sold the muskrat catalog yet ?

walleyed

They haven't even dug the trench yet Walleye!

The letter from FH that Jerry got said NV fur was given to the Ontario DNR
.or whatever they're called..to be disposed at their discretion.

But yet they just sold coyotes up there and got .50?

The 50 cent coyotes werent NVd but yet our coon..that graded # 2 were NVd?

We got 1.00 for our section 3s at a big name buyer last year


Who determines what's an NV?

We were told by the same buyer that he talked to a guy out of Ohio who was told
.when he questioned FH about why 300 of his 1000 foxes were NVd ...that it was because the packing and handling came to more than the pelt would sell for......he averaged 1.72 on those 1000 reds(700) after the 300 NV.
Before commission.

.but yet a yote goes for 50..and we all know that a yote that brought .50 cent is a piece of crap in any market..

All I can say is thanks FH because because of your grading and NV policy..whatever it is..we found alternative markets for our fur which are much more lucrative for us.

Those markets may not be traditional fur markets but they're fur markets just the same


Despite the disappointing wording of the article in Trappers Post.

If the guy averaged 1.72 on the 700 "better" reds, I think it is pretty obvious why the 300 poor ones graded NV.

Trapping to early or to late will produce a lot of No Value fur in the coming years. Just because fur producers remember that early caught fur used to bring some kind of satisfactory return (money) that will not always be the case, especially going forward. Like most things in life TIMING is important.

So walleyed. since you're reading why didn't you answer the question .if you ha e a clue...what really happens to NV pelts?

And yourw Wrong about the foxes...

The buyer said he offered him 5 straight the guy said hed take his chances with y'all. Then said he wished he hadn't and that hed never ship another piece of fur to FH. Ive had 20 guys tell.me the same thing.

The big buyer said they were of good quality just small


And How do raccoons that yalls(FHs) own grader graded #2. Become NVs and get tossed

A number 3 or 4 we could understand..but #2s?

By the same.token if you wait on some.of it there's no access because of snow


And jerrys october caught marten just brought 35 av on 275


And not all southern fur is junk
.either.
We sold a bunch of that for good money too..like otter for 42 nose count on em
.like 81 total

Around here trapping and putting up red fox for $5 would be considered NV. That would be Negative Value.

Rarely do I agree with Dirt but here I do. Trapping and putting up red Fox for $5. Better pay off cutting and selling firewood.

Don Rumford (a higher up at FH) told me the NV pelts are given to the DNR to be disposed of. He said they bury them but I do not know if that is true.

Based on what I’ve seen in person at FH, they offer for sale some very rough looking pelts. If those pelts are being graded and offered for sale, I can’t imagine how bad the NV pelts were.

In some cases, it almost looks like the DNR is reconsigning the NV pelts to be graded and sold for their account. Just kidding, I think…….

Wissmiss...That's what we think

And we didn't send any blue or rubbed coon.

None of them we sent graded lower than a #2... that's why we don't understand how they were deemed NVs

Otter have taken a nice bump up in price just recently, there's demand. A lot of Sables in the fur market usually come from Russia, they cannot be exported now and that may last for another year. You happened to put a several years worth of Sables up for sale in a year where buyers are really searching them out, congratulations. But southern Wyoming sables caught in early fall won't do that all the time. I have a friend that just moved to Saratoga WY. last summer, and he trapped marten in November from Bridger Peak to Hog Park which is probably near the same vicinity to where Jerry trapped and his best just sold for $63 and his average was $49 and small change, (72) skins all sold. for the first year in a new area, he's a really good marten trapper.

Walleyed and I are not the same guy, but no matter.

I think we have all turned down offers, then later wish we hadn't. I wouldn't blame him for turning down a $5 offer on 1000 red fox, but yes, sometimes it comes back to bite you. I just turned down a decent offer on a bunch of beaver pelts, hoping to do better elsewhere. If not, it's no ones fault but my own.

I have nothing to do with Fur Harvesters other than occasionally sell through them, so I have no idea what happens to NV pelts.

I have shipped thousands of pelts to both auction houses for almost 50 years-never had a no value pelt.
I have seen some no value pelts from both auction houses..

Years ago no value pelts were taken by MNR and some were given to the FN to use.The rest were disposed of (incinerated I believe).
I had a buddy bring some to me that he got thru his band that had been traditionally tanned,To make one hat for him it took around 7 foxes and a lot of cutting and sewing to find enough useful fur.

I also seen some No Value beaver that the local FN got from MNR-they were untannable by any means.

I dont think the FN craft people take No value fur anymore-The stuff I seen is pretty much useless to try to do anything with.