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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538527
03/25/22 11:49 AM
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I think you will find the refugees from the Ukraine will simulate here better than the Afghans.

We have a LARGE number of Europeans that can communicate with them on how to become an American.

MIchigan is majority are Polish, German and Finnish. Throw in a few Italians, Scottish and Irish.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538531
03/25/22 11:50 AM
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hate to point it out but for some people as long as they are the "right" type of refugees its no problem.
Vote conservative,hard working and the right skin tone.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538532
03/25/22 11:51 AM
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I say send them all back to thier country of origin or to meet whatever God they choose to worship. We don't need them.

Re: accepting refugees [Re: Boco] #7538534
03/25/22 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
hate to point it out but for some people as long as they are the "right" type of refugees its no problem.
Vote conservative,hard working and the right skin tone.


I agree with the hardworking conservative part but could care less about their skin color.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538536
03/25/22 11:56 AM
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I have no problem with it considering their situation. I DO HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!

BIDEN NEEDS HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR DERELICTION OF HIS FIRST DUTY AS PRESIDENT.

Re: accepting refugees [Re: bblwi] #7538537
03/25/22 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
What is the problem? We are 2-3 million short on workers, they will probably want to work. Many speak English and literate and have a good education. Relocation for them should be quite smooth and easy and probably many companies will welcome their work experience and time. In many cases this nation was settled by prisoners, social and religious outcast or groups or individuals that were persecuted so 350 years later not so much has changed in some ways.

Bryce

I agree.

What is being proposed here is an organized process of immigration. We need workers; that is a fact.

One other thing I think a lot of you guys are unaware of: Slavic immigrants (Ukrainian/Russian/Belarusian/Etc.) are a very conservative group of people. Once they become citizens they will vote about 90% Republican.

BOCO, I don't think there is any problem just letting in the "right type". Letting in those who "vote conservative, and the hard working" is perfectly acceptable. Why should we let in those who want to destroy this Country. Saying we don't want to include those with the "right skin tone" is simply a red-herring. I know a lot of recent immigrants who are of a brownish color who are conservative, hard working, and family oriented; nothing wrong with that type of immigrant.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538559
03/25/22 12:23 PM
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I just saw where Biden is prioritizing gay refugees over normal ones.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: yotetrapper30] #7538586
03/25/22 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I just saw where Biden is prioritizing gay refugees over normal ones.

Of course...........that would benefit Biden himself. Just sayin.
And as far as skin color I don't care either. If it weren't for Mexicans nothing would get done in Florida as far as hard labor.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538600
03/25/22 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I just saw where Biden is prioritizing gay refugees over normal ones.


"We remain committed to ensuring those affected by President Putin’s war of aggression, especially vulnerable populations such as women, children, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTQI+) persons, and persons with disabilities, are able to access food, clean water, shelter, and medical care."

"The EDRI is expected to support media freedom and counter disinformation, increase the safety and security of activists and vulnerable groups including LGBTQI+ persons."

The LGBTQI+ persons are the ones the democrats care for. They make no mention of the elderly, who will likely suffer much more.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...e-to-ukraine-and-the-surrounding-region/

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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538613
03/25/22 01:18 PM
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If we let those immigrants in they will be riding trains and shooting our buffalo and sending all our beaver back to Europe! I guess that thought might be 300 years too late.

Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538616
03/25/22 01:23 PM
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I wonder how much money the Big Guy will funnel from this program. No worries our children and grandchildren will pay for it.

Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538617
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I bet none of them go to Delaware or bordering NE states.

Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538635
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A couple things to consider.

1. Adult literacy in Ukraine is 100%
2. 70% have secondary or graduate degrees
3. Thriving technology sector in Ukraine and lots of available brain power.

I doubt we see anything like those numbers in the "refugees" currently crossing the southern border.
I also wouldn't be surprised if those numbers are better than the functional morons coming out of our public schools today.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538639
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Free college for everybody. Ukraine might be smarted but we are far more educated.

Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538641
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Wouldn't the money we give all these refugees be better spent on helping our own homeless Veterans first?

Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538654
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Wouldn't the money we give all these refugees be better spent on helping our own homeless Veterans first?


Our veterans are mostly conservatives who truly loathe the democrats. Most democrats hate and fear our veterans. Look at all the recent condemnations of our veterans by the democrats, since obama took office.

https://www.brookings.edu/events/how-to-address-extremism-among-veterans/

https://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/16/napolitano.apology/

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/why-america-s-vets-are-turning-extremism-after-military-n1281510

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123992665198727459

Even the leftist ACLU believes that the democrats are unfairly targeting veterans and denying them their earned benefits.

https://www.aclu.org/other/us-government-watchlisting-unfair-process-and-devastating-consequences

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Re: accepting refugees [Re: ] #7538706
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Originally Posted by J Staton
I'm with Keith on this one. It's not the taking in of refugees, its having to pay for them. The Irish didn't get handouts fleeing the potato famine from .gov. Prisoners, social, and religious outcast didn't get handouts from .gov. That's the difference.
Now if folks like CaseXX or bblwi want to take on one of those families that would be fine. Housing ,clothing, and feeding them on their own dime. After all, that would be true charity. .Gov doing it is simply stealing money from one person and giving it to another.



J Staton, Sir: Thank you for your permission to bring in foreigners, but we, my wife anyway already did that. (She is their sponsor) She has two Ukraineiun ladies, wives, and one each husband and a wife Russian people. She also has a few Shri Lankan ladies, and numerous Mexicans of both genders. All of them are hard working respectfull people. All of them already own there own homes, hence they pay taxes. Some are working and going to school at the same time. Most are applying for US citizenship. The Russians are already citizens, one each a husband and another a wife. All of these people have at least a Bachelorette degree some a Masters. A few Doctorates. The ones that are citizens have children in our grade schools they will therefore continue to contribute to our society. Me personally, I benefit with some of the best tamales you can sink your teeth into. My S.I.L is from France she still must leave the country once a year. But her husband my B.I.L who is a Prof. At a school near the owner of this site travels out of country a lot so not an issue.

We are already sending multiple millions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. All you have to do is look at Japan, Germany, Vietnam, and others they have all benefited from the US after wars. Do you think a few dollars spent here at home is going to break us more then we are already broken? I doubt it, this great melting pot of an experiment is greater than any has imagined before, and will not be broken by a few bumps in the road.

We have some tumultuous times ahead most notably our system of finance, but that will be overcome in time. We will see even greater hardships in the future, probably much greater. But the founding fathers weren't fools and neither are the true American people. We will come out alright in the end.
Just my opinion others of course may have their own.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538787
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2 million illegals, 1 million legal in a year, close to 1% of the US population. Is there to many, is there a limit and if so what is it?

Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538791
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100,000 Ukrainian/ Nazis mostly, they'll be white folks. We should be putting them smack dab into the muslim communities to mix things up a little, and maybe clean them muslims out, just my opinion.


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Re: accepting refugees [Re: BuckMink] #7538801
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LOL


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