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Russia #7540284
03/26/22 11:47 PM
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I have friends in Russia that fully support Putin, they say nobody knows the real story including them lol . I don’t have television and I don’t listen to radio often so I’m probably way behind on events but my Russian friends have told me many things that they believe. , I’m 100% American and I’ll fight for our country to insure my children’s freedom. But their story and the story we hear are not the same story.

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I'm sure their media is also 100 percent controlled by the gov so of course they won't hear anything other then Putin wants them to know.

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There are always two sides to every story. In every conflict between men since the beginning of time, people on each side thought they were the good guys. The only truth you can be sure of is that the narrative of the MSM is not the full story.

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Re: Russia [Re: BuckMink] #7540294
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I agree and it’s a shame that freedom of press is Dead along with many others.

Re: Russia [Re: BuckMink] #7540296
03/27/22 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
I'm sure their media is also 100 percent controlled by the gov so of course they won't hear anything other then Putin wants them to know.

Uh, and our media isn't one-sided, and just tells us only what they want us to hear?

The people in Russia have just as much, and the same information available as we do.
I've heard on our mainstream media that western news sources have been cut of from the Russian people; that is an absolute lie.


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Re: Russia [Re: waggler] #7540300
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They do have access to media like everywhere else. I guess it’s up to the individual to draw their own conclusions. Like every aspect of life.

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Interesting that you brought this up. Where is the truth?

I just finished a You Tube program called Allen Jackson Ministries. He had a pastor and his wife that landed here several days before Putin invaded Ukraine. They are from Belarus and work with churches there and Ukraine. If you want their perspective I would encourage you to watch that you tube. I hope you can find it and watch it


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I bought this up because yesterday I was messaging one of my friends from Russia and her parents live only 40 miles from the Ukraine border and she was really afraid for her family and told me several things about Ukraine and nato and Russia that I’ve never heard. Not that I believe the things she said , just that I now understand the information war is worldwide and more catastrophic than an actual war.

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Pardon the auto correct. Brought

Re: Russia [Re: BuckMink] #7540319
03/27/22 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
I'm sure their media is also 100 percent controlled by the gov so of course they won't hear anything other then Putin wants them to know.


Similar to our media?


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Miss information will be the fall of society. How can anyone with no moral code choose anything correctly being guided by false information? That’s why the constitution was formed for a moral and religious people. Because it isn’t fit to govern a society that doesn’t hold the same values internally. This current trend of tolerance can’t last. It breeds intolerance.

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today is all abut what someone or something can be made to appear to be not what they or it actually is....


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Re: Russia [Re: Marty] #7540330
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Originally Posted by Marty
today is all abut what someone or something can be made to appear to be not what they or it actually is....

This says it all


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Re: Russia [Re: Marty] #7540348
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by BuckMink
I'm sure their media is also 100 percent controlled by the gov so of course they won't hear anything other then Putin wants them to know.


Similar to our media?


Yes! Would be nice to actually hear the truth on all this..

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If people here knew the whole truth they would not be able to get the support to go to war.

the same as if people had known the truth about iraq in 2003 bush would not have had the support for that illegal war.

100,000 + civilian deaths, maybe 250,000(depends on who you believe)....+ US troop deaths and casualties and many trillions of dollars spent on things that never gained us anything...now that country is still in chaos and will eventually be taken over by our enemy iran.

War is a big moneymaker for corporations and those corporations contribute lots and lots of money to politicians both above and below the table....couple billion to ukraine and I bet 20% winds up feathering US politicians and their families nests...why do you think they are so anxious to send that $ there???? I bet they are making money thru the sanctions also.


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History is repeating itself in Russia. Communist Russia is flying its true colors and lying about everything is common over there, all the way back to Stalin.

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Originally Posted by TraderVic
History is repeating itself in Russia. Communist Russia is flying its true colors and lying about everything is common over there, all the way back to Stalin.



One question do you believe the US is any different. Ok 2 questions how old are you?


It seems generations older than mine do tend to believe the US new and media than younger generations. That why I ask your age so I can see where you fall and if the pattern is holding true or is flawed.

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I am 68, been around long enough to know Communist Russian and Communist Chinese lies !!

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Originally Posted by TraderVic
I am 68, been around long enough to know Communist Russian and Communist Chinese lies !!



But you believe your government is honest then? I'm guessing you do since you did not answer the question. That holds with the pattern thanks for responding.

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The government (US) and the media here have regressed considerably since Obama's eight dreadful years.
You youngsters need to know and understand global history far better than you obviously do.
Are you a veteran ? If so, been anywhere ?? Do you know who Stalin was, what he did to his own country and people?
Do you know the difference between Communist China and Nationalist China ?
The media in this country is a disgrace in the last 15+ years !!!
So DON'T lecture me on history !

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