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Water well guys #7544765
03/31/22 11:46 AM
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Last fall ran a water line from a 1-1/4 inch driven well (it was a old hand pump, converted it to electric 1 hp pump) which is located about 150 feet from the cabin, but very little water pressure at that distance. Water from the well head pumps 8 gal per minute, adjusted off-on to 40-60.
Is there any way to add a booster pump between well and cabin? If so can someone recommend one. Blew out the well screen before hooking up the pump.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544768
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Bigger line to house. Diameter of pipe and distance determines the pressure drop used to move the water.

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Submersible pump?


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544779
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1 inch line to the cabin, not submersible, just a regular water pump with tank


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544787
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How big is your holding tank?Holding tank with bladder is how you adjust the house pressure.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544808
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I'd get a submersible pump to put into the well


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Bruce T] #7544811
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
I'd get a submersible pump to put into the well

It's a 1.25 inch pipe...don't think they make a sub that small.

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Originally Posted by Bruce T
I'd get a submersible pump to put into the well

Sounds like he drove a well point.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544814
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Maybe your lines in the cabin are the restriction. Something is if you're really doing 8 gpm and 40/50 psi a 150 feet away

Re: Water well guys [Re: Yukon John] #7544817
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Originally Posted by Bruce T
I'd get a submersible pump to put into the well

It's a 1.5 inch pipe...don't think they make a sub that small.

That 1.5 inch pipe should connect to the fitting on the well case.The submersible pump will be connected to the pipe on the inside of the well then connected to that same fitting in the well casing on the inside of the casing.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Yukon John] #7544823
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Sounds like a shallow sand point well. Do you know how old the hand pump well was? Sand point might be partially plugged. Sometimes with rust deposits other times when real old, fine sand accumulates around the point screen. Sometimes driving it down another foot helps get out of the fines.

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Iím running a Drummond 1hsp pump with a built in tank, it gives me plenty of pressure but I have a shorter runÖ you could add an additional pressure tank inside the cabin.

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Any elevation rise? Takes pressure to push uphill.

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Where is the pump? Itís about 70í up hill at our cabin but the pump is pushing it. We have no issues with pressure.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544915
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How deep is the well?


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Well is shallow well, point driven, no elevation rise, pump is in the well pit. Well was cleaned with acid, ran the pump for 3 hours before hooking up the water line. No noticeable sand in the buckets Measured the water output, by filling 5 gallon buckets and timing the fill. Back flushed the line in case any sand got into the line while installing. Well is 28 feet, which is just about the maximum for the shallow well jet pump. However the water comes within 6 inches of the well head.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7544974
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Pressure and flow steady or drops off after running for a bit?

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Pressure and flow both decreases after running. I'm assuming it does that after the pressure from the 20 tank empties.


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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7545194
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First I would raise the normal on PSI. The line from the pump to the house is to small, the longer the line the more friction loss you have (less water at the house) to under stand and see how it works, have a 50 foot hose, add another 50 feet and see the less water at the end, add another 50 feet of hose and see it even drop more. The is friction loss in a simple form.
If you are just using a old tank with no blatter inside you have to make sure you have air in the tank. You can not compress water.
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Re: Water well guys [Re: Spade] #7545200
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Try a new pressure tank


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