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Political crooks and felons #7545458
03/31/22 10:46 PM
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So being in my 70s I started paying attention to politics when you got drafted but could not vote. Remember Watergate and lots of other scandal's and wrong doings by politicians both sides and all branches. For the life of me however can only remember one Senator or maybe he was a congressman from IL or Iowa maybe that ever did jail time. I remember lots getting convicted of something, censored (kind of like quiet time) but never any going to jail. Seems like a disparity. So what is even the use of all the congressional hearings, subpoenas, testimony and waste of tax payer money. What a mess and don't see how it will ever get fixed, Crooks guarding the hen house, they dont pay their taxes, benefits for life, under the table perks, just not right.

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545478
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Yet there are some who would give up even more freedoms and give these knot heads even more control.

Explain that one to me


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545481
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this is all about to change....the Biden crime family is being exposed!

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Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545510
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The only way this will change is if some big wheel goes to prison, otherwise it's the same deal different day.

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545527
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yup ....its coming

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545536
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They would have to build a whole new prison to put them in! I wonder if it would have a right wing and a left wing??

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: wallfur] #7545552
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Originally Posted by wallfur
this is all about to change....the Biden crime family is being exposed!


Don't hold your breath, ya ever hear of the clintons?


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Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: coyote addict] #7545581
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Originally Posted by coyote addict
Originally Posted by wallfur
this is all about to change....the Biden crime family is being exposed!


Don't hold your breath, ya ever hear of the clintons?

You got that right.
Sniffy and the crack head will face no consequences whatsoever.

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545585
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Yep, Hillary and the DNC only got a 100,000 dollar fine for tampering with the 2016 election, lying to the FBI and FISA court.

Makes Watergate child's play.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/clint...for-lying-about-steele-dossier-payments/

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Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545590
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All the hearings, all the finger pointing, all the hand wringing, is just a dog and pony show. An illusion to make you the American voter believe your "representative" will be held to account when all the facts come out. Look at Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. Flapping their lips and wagging their tongues constantly about border security, wasted tax dollars, crimes by politicians and their families, on and on. those two are all over the news. Ask yourself what they have accomplished past flapping their lips? Now look at liberals you don't like. Constantly flapping their lips. Talk incessantly about corruption, law breaking, on and on and on. what have they accomplished? Its all a dog and pony show so you dont pay attention to the real agenda.

Trump still blabbers about the second amendment but it was Trump and bumpstocks that let the ATF ASSUME the authority to interpret and thereby change established regulation with just a proclamation.

Obama whined and bawled about the greed of corporate America but never had a real job. Ever. Part time professor at a community college. Yet he is a multi millionaire today. Where did all the money come from? How does a guy who was called Barry Soto when he was an immigrant get to be a citizen by birth when his name is changed to Barrack Obama?

Its both parties working toward the same goal. Dog and pony show on Fox news today and Good Morning America to hide that truth.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545592
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It’s all political theater danvee, a show put on for voters. And anybody that thinks there will be anything serious happening to the Bidens for their long history of crimes is living in La La Land. That is never going to happen.


Eh...wot?

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545608
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Above the law (not like the movie). They're all above the law.

Enjoy the little freedoms you have ... while they last.
Your freedoms are a lot like your teeth.
Ignore them ....... and they'll go away.

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danny clifton] #7545610
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Trump still blabbers about the second amendment but it was Trump and bumpstocks that let the ATF ASSUME the authority to interpret and thereby change established regulation with just a proclamation.


you can't logically pin that on Trump...the fact that "regulations" and "definitions" aren't voted on by the Legislature; but rather empowered to the Agencies BY the Legislature.

THAT has been going on for MANY decades PRIOR to Trump.

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545615
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Trump Infatuation Syndrome is as real as Trump Derangement Syndrome. Trump was all for it along with the NRA.

White Marlin, so far as I know ATF never changed established definitions before. I could be wrong about that and if I am please correct me


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545628
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Originally Posted by danvee
They would have to build a whole new prison to put them in! I wonder if it would have a right wing and a left wing??


This reminds me of a new neighbor I once had. Was shooting weekly with a judge and I asked him about him, told me his family had their own wing at the county prison!!! Thanks alot.
Pretty much every month there was either cops or ambulance crew over there, but times change and he and his brothers have moved up to the big house!!


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Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danny clifton] #7545642
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Trump Infatuation Syndrome is as real as Trump Derangement Syndrome. Trump was all for it along with the NRA.

White Marlin, so far as I know ATF never changed established definitions before. I could be wrong about that and if I am please correct me


you are absolutely wrong about the first time definitions. ATF ALLOWED trigger-assisting devices in the past...many folks wanted them defined as a "machine gun", but ATF (at the time) did not do so, relying on a standard definition.

Trump had his faults, but I think it is the height of Foolishness to denigrate the "good" at the expense of "perfection". When you get a 100 percent Constitutionalist to run (WHO IS THAT, Danny?????); I'll glady support them.

Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545653
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I supported Trump. Just think its important to point out his short comings. I was disappointed when he agreed to that first stimulus check too. Still don't know why he didn't fire Fauci and let the virus run its course instead of shutting down the economy.

Kinda goes toward the idea that both parties are moving to the same place don't it?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545717
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I'm guessing Trump okd that in return for congress to drop the anti-gun bills that had more than enough support to pass at the time. Manchin-Toomey and Finsteins are two I remember being pushed right after our worst mass killing in Vegas.

It turned out that way, those bills went away. But this is offbase of the crooks in D.C., most of which are career leftist bureaucrats.

It's like a Duck, looks calm on top but underneath is where the swimming is being done.

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Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545754
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I dont think congress had the votes to over ride a gun control veto

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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Political crooks and felons [Re: danvee] #7545776
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Politics and staying in power will make for some strange decisions. Trump messed up with the bump stock deal, I don't think he cared one way or the other, just wanted the LV shooting to go away.

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