Re: Water well guys
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03/31/22 07:37 PM
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Thank you all for your suggestions, since I have another pump and tank, I'll try hooking it up and see what happens. The tamk on the well pump is new as well as the pump, air is set at 2 psi below necessary.
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Re: Water well guys
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03/31/22 07:48 PM
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If he has good water and pressure from the pump at the well head. And he must have tank at the pump, to be shutting on and off as he claims at 40 and 60 psi, also assuming water can run full 8 gallons a minute with no drop off at the well or running out of water. The problem is not the well. I have 150 foot or more of 1 inch black poly buried with a very similar set up, similar depth well. We can run two showers and fill the wash machine. Shallow well jet pumps cannot pull good water too far past 32 to 35 or more foot, but they can however push it a long ways. When the line was buried it could have a rock pinching it, a kink somewhere? If you have good pressure for a while and it drops off, that's a sign the well is running out of water, but it would also do that at the well. If you "always" have low pressure at the house but good at the well it's something restricting plumbing. Valve not open all the way? Separate the system into parts. Start at well and work downstream.....Open pipe at house connection, good pressure, go down stream some more... A second pressure tank in the cabin would increase drawdown time and reduce water hammering if you have any. May help with a surge and drop as pump kicks on and off by pressure switch at 40 and 60. Big question is, will the setup pump fully with no drop off at the well?
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Re: Water well guys
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03/31/22 07:52 PM
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Air bladder pressure should be 2 psi below cut in pressure, or 38 psi in this case. With all pressure off system. Pump off and spigots open till water stops flowing. No water should come out or show at valve stem, that means bladder is bad, leaking...
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Re: Water well guys
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03/31/22 09:20 PM
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Is your water tank at the well head or in the cabin? What I was just going to ask. It would be best if at cabin, imo.
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Re: Water well guys
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03/31/22 09:39 PM
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If he has good water and pressure from the pump at the well head. And he must have tank at the pump, to be shutting on and off as he claims at 40 and 60 psi, also assuming water can run full 8 gallons a minute with no drop off at the well or running out of water. The problem is not the well. I have 150 foot or more of 1 inch black poly buried with a very similar set up, similar depth well. We can run two showers and fill the wash machine. Shallow well jet pumps cannot pull good water too far past 32 to 35 or more foot, but they can however push it a long ways. When the line was buried it could have a rock pinching it, a kink somewhere? If you have good pressure for a while and it drops off, that's a sign the well is running out of water, but it would also do that at the well. If you "always" have low pressure at the house but good at the well it's something restricting plumbing. Valve not open all the way? Separate the system into parts. Start at well and work downstream.....Open pipe at house connection, good pressure, go down stream some more... A second pressure tank in the cabin would increase drawdown time and reduce water hammering if you have any. May help with a surge and drop as pump kicks on and off by pressure switch at 40 and 60. Big question is, will the setup pump fully with no drop off at the well? X2. I looked up the pressure drop of 1 inch pvc at the rate and distance and it ain't much. Either you don't have what you think at the pump/well or you have a restriction between pump and faucet somewhere.
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Re: Water well guys
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04/01/22 10:14 AM
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Pressure and flow both decreases after running. I'm assuming it does that after the pressure from the 20 tank empties. A water supply problem either your pump isn't pumping enough water or your pipe to the house is restricted some how and not allowing enough flow to keep up. Your pressure switch could be bad or restricted also and not cycling. Start at the well and work towards the house. Have someone turn the water on inside and listen and see when the well comes on, if there is a working guage on the pressure tank watch it.
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Re: Water well guys
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How old is the pipe from the pump to the house? Hard water can cause mineral accumulation inside and restrict your flow a bunch. Your faucets could be restricted if you been doing work and broke some deposits loose as well. Been there done that trick too. Sand points are rough on tank bladders as well. Most guarantees are void if used with a sand point well.
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