Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Wolfidogs invention will work exactly like the guy's in the demo,except it holds the trap in a 90 degree orientation to the other guys. Unless you believe the guy in the demo is a BS'er and his doesnt work like he said it does.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfidogs invention will work exactly like the guy's in the demo,except it holds the trap in a 90 degree orientation to the other guys. Unless you believe the guy in the demo is a BS'er and his doesnt work like he said it does. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, right?
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfidogs invention will work exactly like the guy's in the demo,except it holds the trap in a 90 degree orientation to the other guys. Unless you believe the guy in the demo is a BS'er and his doesnt work like he said it does. Honestly still don't really get what was wrong with his version the why he set it.....
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Now wolfdog,make one that will hook onto a dry pole solid so you can set it under the ice with bait.
Then make a hundred of each and hit the convention trail this summer.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Now wolfdog,make one that will hook onto a dry pole so you can set it under the ice with bait. How would you want it connected because I have three or four different designs for that. Nails or screws are what you want I can just pick two holes in a bit of flat stock and weld that where the prongs weld into. Two hole two nails or screws into a pole and done
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Now wolfdog,make one that will hook onto a dry pole solid so you can set it under the ice with bait.
Then make a hundred of each and hit the convention trail this summer. I read this and just continue to shake my head....
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Now wolfdog,make one that will hook onto a dry pole so you can set it under the ice with bait. How would you want it connected because I have three or four different designs for that. Nails or screws are what you want I can just pick two holes in a bit of flat stock and weld that where the prongs weld into. Two hole two nails or screws into a pole and done Yea,that would work.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfdog, do you any B&L #4 double underspring traps??
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfidogs invention will work exactly like the guy's in the demo,except it holds the trap in a 90 degree orientation to the other guys. Unless you believe the guy in the demo is a BS'er and his doesnt work like he said it does. Honestly still don't really get what was wrong with his version the why he set it..... Wolf dog, they’re referring to the size of a beavers rear foot. It’s huge. It’s like the beaver equivalent of wearing scuba fins. When a long, wide foot lands in between the jaws of a trap with the levers at 6/12, the jaws close around it like a piece of bread folding around a piece of ham. When the levers are at 9/3, the trap is turned sideways, it’s literally possible for a beavers foot to rest completely across the jaws of many traps, thus potentially being lifted when the trap fires, or possibly not even fire at all if the feet on the jaws prevent the pan from being pushed. Front feet, not a big deal. Rear feet, it can become a big deal. The smaller the trap, the more important it is.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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My solution to the problem (the problem being a steep bank into deep water) for trap placement is just to go on to the next spot instead and bed a trap normally. But I look at potential trap spots the same way for conibears too. You can almost always make a spot work if you put in enough effort (or bring specialized trap companion gear). The smart trapper will look to make the effort-to-fur ratio as small as possible. And try to not fill up your pack basket,ATV, or boat with excess clutter.
I'm just commenting what works for me and I'm a fur trapper with literally hundreds of river miles worth of potential trap spots.... so I can afford to be a little picky. Wise words from an experienced beaver trapper right there. No need for a bedding device unless you are an ADC professional. When fur trapping, move to another location or use sticks and natural materials if you for some stubborn or rare situational reason feel the need to not just move to another spot. Doing ADC work, you WILL be dealing with educated beavers sometimes, and you need rock solid, versatile, and 100% reliable separation of the trap from the device. I messed with a lot of wire type setups, and they can be made to function in some situations, each type is better for different situations, but all I have tested so far leave a lot to be desired for my needs. Basically, in the ADC situations where a bedding device can be very valuable, it is worth spending the extra $ (or time and a little less $ to build your own like Mad Scientist did) to get yourself a magnebed. If I find anything that works better than a Magnebed, or works as well for less $, I will switch to it and quit making magnebeds. Also make sure you can put 20 or 30 pounds of pressure any and every place on that trap and not have it tip or flip off the stand or bounce when actually being used in the field. Don’t assume it will, try it in real life trapping situations. Then just catch about 100 beavers with it and let us know how it performs across the board.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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I do think there could be a place for something like what you have here wolfie, like Boco mentioned for under ice sets. For it to be worthwhile fur trapping, it has to cheap, simple, and easy so that you net enough extra fur to actually make it worth the extra expense and hassle.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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I like Wolfdogs posts would i use what he made probably not But i can recall trying to make a set or two on slimy clay banks because thats all there was, that stabelizer would at least have had a chance of being shoved into the bank
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Front foot catch and drowned down at the bottom (2 foot of water). The last thing I would want Is a TS850 On a beavers front foot. Especially a laminated trap.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Hats off to you for having a little fun fabricating something up Wolfdog. Pay attention to the feedback, because no design is ever perfect (this is coming from a design engineer), but ignore the comments from people who have nothing better to do than talk your stuff down.
Keep up the good work
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfdog, do you any B&L #4 double underspring traps?? Double under springs ? No I do not. Honestly I really really do not like double undersprings.
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfidogs invention will work exactly like the guy's in the demo,except it holds the trap in a 90 degree orientation to the other guys. Unless you believe the guy in the demo is a BS'er and his doesnt work like he said it does. Is this demo a video? If so could someone post a link? Thanks!
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Re: So.... Built a TS85 Stabilizer
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Wolfdog, do you any B&L #4 double underspring traps?? Double under springs ? No I do not. Honestly I really really do not like double undersprings. Okay, there is just a neat trick to stabilizing them for under ice or for what you are trying to do, using only a simple saw kerf...I'm surprised Boco does not use it... It works best on B&L undersprings...The old victor 14s or 4s work too, but not as well as the B&Ls...
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