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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555736
04/11/22 10:44 PM
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the stupidity of making certain guns illegal in order to stop people from using them to shoot other people....which is already illegal....is EPIC.


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555779
04/11/22 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie


Not from what I understand. The executive order requires dealers and pawn shops to serialize any they buy from the builder. It also requires the kits being sold now to be serialized.


What I am trying to figure out is are they only banning 80 percent lowers or are they going to require serial numbers on the uppers and other parts as well.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: KeithC] #7555841
04/12/22 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I looked it up, they are counting regular guns that thieves took the serial numbers off as ghost guns, to falsely warp their data, while going after legal gun parts. They should just arrest criminals using guns, give them strict sentences and stop trying to scare and trick regular Americans into giving up their God given rights.

Keith

This exactly!!


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555848
04/12/22 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


Yes, if you do not get it serialized.


Not from what I understand. The executive order requires dealers and pawn shops to serialize any they buy from the builder. It also requires the kits being sold now to be serialized.


My mistake, forgot this is the fed thread.


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555856
04/12/22 06:29 AM
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What do you think our colonial ancestors had for weaponry? serialized brown besses that were approved by the crown with a one shot magazine?
they were made by freedom loving individuals in little back yard shops and carriage houses, and in that spirit it should remain.
the tyrannical federal government fears such things.
Suppose ukraine did a full background check on everybody before handing out ak's & javelins?
bash away all you want but join NRA or GOA. or both.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: Marty] #7555858
04/12/22 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
the stupidity of making certain guns illegal in order to stop people from using them to shoot other people....which is already illegal....is EPIC.

democrat logic at its finest.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555864
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He lied throughout that speech, one was the second never allowed us to own cannons.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555874
04/12/22 06:53 AM
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Anyone read a report about a year ago where the ATF raided the company who sells most of the 80% AR15 lowers, didn't arrest anyone but took their records?
https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=ATF+raids+80%25

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: Steven 49er] #7555891
04/12/22 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er


What I am trying to figure out is are they only banning 80 percent lowers or are they going to require serial numbers on the uppers and other parts as well.



That's next on the agenda....
Eventually, ALL parts.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555900
04/12/22 07:34 AM
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When I was a kid I didnt understand why my grandad, my uncle, and my dad were so upset that the NRA was supporting a new gun bill. All the new bill did was put restrictions on guns and ammo being sent by USPS, put an age limit on purchase, require the buyer to fill out a form that was kept by the seller, require all firearm manufacturers to put serial numbers on the guns receiver. (most guns were already being serialized)

IT NEVER STOPS. There is no appeasement. Disarmament is the goal.

Grandad told me when the NFA of 34 passed, the law allowing all the other control laws, people were too busy trying to earn a living to pay much attention. Very few people owned automatic loading firearms. They were being carried by outlaws. People never thought about consequences years later.


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555906
04/12/22 07:41 AM
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There were plenty of firearms manufactured back in the day without serial numbers...mainly .22 rifles. Must be many millions of them out there. How does a person go about serializing them? Serializing will lead to registration and eventually confiscation if they get their wishes.


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7555927
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You would think Biden would have enough on his plate with his diminished mental capacity. This is either diversion or desperation, possibly both. If they're looking for a fight, I'm of a mind to give it to them. Literally.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: MnMan] #7555930
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Originally Posted by MnMan
There were plenty of firearms manufactured back in the day without serial numbers...mainly .22 rifles. Must be many millions of them out there. How does a person go about serializing them? Serializing will lead to registration and eventually confiscation if they get their wishes.

True stuff MnMan


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: Posco] #7555936
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Originally Posted by Posco
You would think Biden would have enough on his plate with his diminished mental capacity. This is either diversion or desperation, possibly both. If they're looking for a fight, I'm of a mind to give it to them. Literally.


The Dems need to push through every whacked out policy they can before the end of 2022, because they know they are going to get slaughtered in the midterms.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: Squash] #7556015
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Originally Posted by Squash
Originally Posted by Posco
You would think Biden would have enough on his plate with his diminished mental capacity. This is either diversion or desperation, possibly both. If they're looking for a fight, I'm of a mind to give it to them. Literally.


The Dems need to push through every whacked out policy they can before the end of 2022, because they know they are going to get slaughtered in the midterms.


True.....

He can still issue these executive orders tho.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: hippie] #7556026
04/12/22 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hippie

True.....

He can still issue these executive orders tho.


Until he is impeached and locked up yes.

But that would require republicans to grow some balls ..... I don't see that happening. If they get the house and senate, they will just sit back and dangle their feet as usual.

Last edited by Scuba1; 04/12/22 10:02 AM.

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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: Wolfdog91] #7556027
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Are some of y'all insinuating that Donald Trump was not the best president ever shocked


far from it , but he was most definitely the lesser of the two evils in both elections


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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I won't argue that Scuba!

You'd think after what the dems did while Trump was in, they'd grow a set and fight back.

Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: Scuba1] #7556058
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by hippie

True.....

He can still issue these executive orders tho.


Until he is impeached and locked up yes.

But that would require republicans to grow some balls ..... I don't see that happening. If they get the house and senate, they will just sit back and dangle their feet as usual.


Exactly why we shouldn’t give it to them. They either need to be forced to grow a set or get out of the way by quitting.


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Re: Ghost gun ban [Re: 330-Trapper] #7556063
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by MnMan
There were plenty of firearms manufactured back in the day without serial numbers...mainly .22 rifles. Must be many millions of them out there. How does a person go about serializing them? Serializing will lead to registration and eventually confiscation if they get their wishes.

True stuff MnMan

until 1968 no gun required a serial number

millions of shotguns , 22s and even some others most were considered "working guns" some weren't much different in price than a good shovel.


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