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upstateNY, are you saying blunt force trauma, ("head bashed in with a shovel") is abuse? I say its quick and painless.

You showed up right on schedule...A practicing troll.

^^^ theres another one.

I think there are better ways than using a shovel.If that's the first thing you could grab while being attacked by a rabid animal,,sure use it.But if you purposely bring a shovel,,,for a planned dispatch,,,your and idiot.Even a ball bat would be better than that.Thats all I have to say about that because dispatches are not supposed to be discussed in here.

In the above context the dogs are in the individuals home and killed, not running the neighbors livestock or killing chickens, or chasing a kid on a bike. In those situations if it's my dog and where it's not supposed to be and behaving badly where it's not supposed to be than shoot it with my blessing. I have shoot several doing just that on my place.

My German Shephard does not get more than 100 yards from the house and my border collie not much farther unless they are out on the farm with me or the family. Either that or they are in the house
We also live on 96 acres so have plenty of room.

Now bother my dogs on my land and home and the results won't just be news worthy but book worthy , if any trace amounts of remains are ever found.

I hope that puts my feelings into context for everyone.

I don't disagree.

Same here.

Describe "abuse", kinda slippery slope .

Well said. Some people think animals life's are more important than human life's. I never thought they would be trappers.

That would be stress or suffering inflicted on an animal intentionally before the kill.
Killing in a humane manner is what all ethical trappers strive for.

In the above context the dogs are in the individuals home and killed, not running the neighbors livestock or killing chickens, or chasing a kid on a bike. In those situations if it's my dog and where it's not supposed to be and behaving badly where it's not supposed to be than shoot it with my blessing. I have shoot several doing just that on my place.

My German Shephard does not get more than 100 yards from the house and my border collie not much farther unless they are out on the farm with me or the family. Either that or they are in the house
We also live on 96 acres so have plenty of room.

Now bother my dogs on my land and home and the results won't just be news worthy but book worthy , if any trace amounts of remains are ever found.

I hope that puts my feelings into context

I don't think anybody has a problem with this sentiment. The statement "wherever he is and whatever he's doing" made by another poster is going on over into whack job territory.

Babies or dogs which gets u more fired up?

What got me all chapped up was wingshot calling the culling of those dogs murder. (he has since edited that word out) Its not murder to kill an animal in any circumstance. It certainly might be a crime sometimes but never murder.

Smacking them in the head with a shovel would not be my first choice for killing them but lets face it. It would be quick and painless even though I would think a shovel would be an unwieldy tool. I suspect in that case a shovel was used because it was handy.

Its China. Not our business. If the Chinese want to cull dogs to prevent the spread of disease its not something people here should be concerned about.

Some Asian people eat dogs. I dont want to eat one but I wont tell somebody else not to. They are animals. Killing a dog is no different than killing a possum. The exception being that dogs are privately owned property and possums rarely are.

People have a right to be upset when someone deprives them of their property.

People also have a right to shoot a dog for damaging property. Killing chickens, chasing sheep, etc.

Your just trying to fish me out as being some kind of tree hugging bunny petter,,,and you got a better chance of catching Polio than that happening.I grew up on a farm where we raised and grew(and processed) everything we ate.I have also been hunting,,fishing and trapping probly since you were still poopin yer underoos.,,and have run my own Animal Nuisance Control Business for over 30 years.

Actually, he has a point. Who defines animal abuse? What we see as humane, some see as horrific. Nowadays, animals are more protected and thought of as more valuable than humans. As you can tell by some responses here, it's not just self proclaimed activist either.

There is a good song by NAZARETH-called "woke up this morning"-google it.

Well it's good to see censorship is as alive and well on this site as it is on spacebook and Twitter. Also good to see that the name calling, mocking and berating is ok as long as you are one of the regulars or agreeing with the popular opinion. Did I use profanity? Did I discuss politics? Did I advertise anything? Or say anything "anti-trapping?" or did I just say something someone else didn't like and got deleted for it?

So, this has to do with 200 million people locked inside and drones are monitoring if anyone breaks quarantine...new covid strain hitting china hard....port of Shanghai shut down (largest port in the world) in fact that whole city is in lockdown..bigger troubles than dogs. People been locked in hi-rise apartments for 10 days now....they are screaming from balconies for food....while drones monitor them.....

I haven't seen one response in here that resembles that at all.What response are you referring to?