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Chickens dropping like flies #7558931
04/15/22 09:48 AM
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Had 5 dead the day before yesterday then 2 yesterday and a couple thinking about dying not sure if itís the bird flu or chemicals or leftover toxic materials from the fire like insulation or a combo of both items? Iíll lock them up for a week and see if it helps slow the die off. Tried to keep them out of there but they come in the back opening no matter ho many times I ran them out. Donít take much to kill a chicken off to get baby chicks today.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7558938
04/15/22 09:53 AM
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In Southern Wisconsin last week a whole farm had to be liquidated and the carcasses disposed. Now I'm hear lots of birds in the area are dropping like flies.

Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7558939
04/15/22 09:54 AM
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Replinish.....nice


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7558961
04/15/22 10:11 AM
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HPAI seems to be slowing around here a bit. I know up by Harris, IA they just completed depopulation at a big commercial layer. That's about 1.5 hrs north of us. With everything you have going on up there with the fire residue, etc., could be a multitude of things. Sometimes the birds act sick, seem dizzy, confused, just plain weird to no symptoms whatsoever. If they're not symptomatic its pretty hard to tell without testing.
The flip side is, if you don't know and you just simply repopulate, and it is HPAI, you have a pretty high probability of more mortality by not knowing and not cleaning or "sanitizing" the infected premises.
Not sure what SD protocol is for testing, ie County or State, that does the testing. I do know it should be at no cost to you. If your flock tests positive they'll be more than happy to tell you how to deal with it.
Curious what your neighbors are seeing in their flocks?


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559139
04/15/22 01:44 PM
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Neighbor has no issues heís 200 yards away from my coops, that said Iím right on the lake heís further away so thatís a factor maybe several dead geese around the lake Iím on. Cats dragging dead birds home is not helping but his cats do the same so again who knows.

I can start a new flock and use the brooder house for the next several months until the other coop is ready again I just need to figure how long the virus lasts you would think sunlight would kill it over time?


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559143
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Dont mess with the bird flu-it is zoonotic.


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559148
04/15/22 01:55 PM
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The reports I read on the bird flu, said that the mortality rate is 2% per day the flock is infected. It sounds more likely that your chickens got into something toxic. Do they have any symptoms besides sudden death? Are they older birds that would have less resistance to the flu?

If it is flu, locking them up together will make it spread quicker, which can be both bad and good.

I hope you don't lose anymore of your chickens.

Keith

Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559163
04/15/22 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Neighbor has no issues heís 200 yards away from my coops, that said Iím right on the lake heís further away so thatís a factor maybe several dead geese around the lake Iím on. Cats dragging dead birds home is not helping but his cats do the same so again who knows.

I can start a new flock and use the brooder house for the next several months until the other coop is ready again I just need to figure how long the virus lasts you would think sunlight would kill it over time?

Supposed to report it to a vet or Game officer


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559206
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more and more reports of Canada's and snow geese dying
100's of Canada's in southern Ontario
before our snow fall the bare fields the snow geese stuck out like sour thumbs....and locally nobody was hunting them
Manitoba is having a zoom meeting on Wed as to what is being done here and in the arctic this summer with this new disease.

Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: 330-Trapper] #7559274
04/15/22 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Neighbor has no issues heís 200 yards away from my coops, that said Iím right on the lake heís further away so thatís a factor maybe several dead geese around the lake Iím on. Cats dragging dead birds home is not helping but his cats do the same so again who knows.

I can start a new flock and use the brooder house for the next several months until the other coop is ready again I just need to figure how long the virus lasts you would think sunlight would kill it over time?

Supposed to report it to a vet or Game officer



Did that called the extension office also I had 8 dead and 6 more thinking about it so I popped the lot and tossed them in the burn barrel once the wind goes down Iíll light them up. Iíll do the same with what I shovel out of the coop put the fire to it.

I canít start a new flock and keep the old flock without cross contamination being a likely outcome if it bird flu. Iíll start the chicks in another building that never had chickens in it.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559280
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On surfaces bird flu can survive up to 2 months. In tissue, including feathers, bird flu can survive up to 240 days.

Keith

Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: KeithC] #7559283
04/15/22 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
The reports I read on the bird flu, said that the mortality rate is 2% per day the flock is infected. It sounds more likely that your chickens got into something toxic. Do they have any symptoms besides sudden death? Are they older birds that would have less resistance to the flu?

If it is flu, locking them up together will make it spread quicker, which can be both bad and good.

I hope you don't lose anymore of your chickens.

Keith


Old birds young bird over half the flock was dead not sure if the symptoms would be much different similar Iíd guess they just wither away better safe then sorry. 25 of these were the tamest birds Iíve ever seen no fear of humans you about tripped over them in the yard the ones I hatched were spookier then the boughten ones.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: KeithC] #7559292
04/15/22 03:52 PM
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[quote=KeithC]On surfaces bird flu can survive up to 2 months. In tissue, including feathers, bird flu can survive up to 240 days.

Keith[/quote

They wonít see the main coop until fall and Iíll shovel the wood chips out and burn the pile asap, disinfect the inside and then the run the brooder house will be the new coop until winter then Iíll move them over to the most protected coop made for winter living.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559303
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Seen very few Birds this Spring so far Not a complete surprise when i trap furbearers disappear when I hunt deer disappear


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559382
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If your chickens are getting sick from something non viral and non toxic, there is a pill that may help. Tony's Treasure Tablets cure most common bacterial and protozoal ailments in animals and people.

https://www.jedds.com/shop/tonys-treasure-tablets-vetafarm/

If you have a lot of animals, it would be useful to have some on hand.

They contain:

+ Norfloxacin Ė a broad spectrum antibiotic that treats bacterial diseases, including Salmonella, E.coli etc.
+ Ronidazole Ė same as Ronivet, for the antiprotozoal to treat trichomonas, hexamiter, giardia.
+ Diclazuril Ė the coccidiostat
+ Doxycycline Ė as a Chlamydia treatment

You can buy them cheaper straight from Australia, but it takes about a month to get them.

I treat all new birds with the pills and all the birds I ship. They work very well.

Keith

Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559392
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I wouldnt choose to eat chickens pumped full of antibiotics.


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Boco] #7559405
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Originally Posted by Boco
I wouldnt choose to eat chickens pumped full of antibiotics.



These chickens are mostly pets and entertainment for Jerry and his wife.

Keith

Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7559415
04/15/22 05:47 PM
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Just smoked the last one that escaped the run I will disinfect everything we wear outside around them tomorrow. I just got back from buying 30 chicks and new equipment for them after taking a shower and changing my clothing after the purge. The plan is to use a old metal water tank I used for chicks before this flu thing even came about in a building never used for chickens before. Iíll pick them up tomorrow once the new home is ready to go.

Told the wife the old coop is a no go zone and off limits no going between the coop and the new birds ever when the time comes Iíll disinfect it and clean it up before any contact with the new chicks. The run will need disinfecting also maybe, from what I read before a lot of diseases stay in the ground were the chickens have lived then the newer birds are at risk from lacking immune protections that the other birds had built up to those diseases. I just moved the coop last year due to high water so moving it might not be a option they free range so would that even matter?


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: KeithC] #7560046
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Originally Posted by KeithC
On surfaces bird flu can survive up to 2 months. In tissue, including feathers, bird flu can survive up to 240 days.

Keith

Wow


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Re: Chickens dropping like flies [Re: Law Dog] #7560547
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I start all of my chicks on medicated chick starter. Once a month they get a dose of ivemec. If I handle them, it goes down their mouth and they get sprayed with or drops of Frontline. If not, I spray ivemec on dog food. It's been years since anything got sick.

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