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Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561154
04/17/22 08:37 AM
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The only new vechile I have ever bought is my little Yanmar tractor. That was because there was not a decent used tractor in the size class I wanted to be found within a 100 miles of me at a reasonable price.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561173
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I use trucks to make me money in my fence installation business. So if I need one I buy one that is reliable, comes with a warranty and I really don’t worry about the price. I just pass the cost onto the customers just like every business in America does now. Just my opinion

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561196
04/17/22 09:23 AM
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If a recession hits trucks will get cheaper.

Re: New truck prices [Re: mttrapperguy] #7561211
04/17/22 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mttrapperguy
I use trucks to make me money in my fence installation business. So if I need one I buy one that is reliable, comes with a warranty and I really don’t worry about the price. I just pass the cost onto the customers just like every business in America does now. Just my opinion


No...Every business doesn't think this way and consider costs. It's also one reason why trucks cost so much. My truck (new every 5 or 6 years) is customer paid for as well, but I try and keep the price down best I can for I refuse to just cater to the rich.

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Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561214
04/17/22 09:45 AM
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If Henry Ford could see it now.

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Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561216
04/17/22 09:55 AM
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Heard this might be last year V8 can be built and put in trucks because of 2025 regs. I’m waiting for the guberment to lead by example and switch their fleets to electric.

Re: New truck prices [Re: Muskeg] #7561229
04/17/22 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Muskeg
Heard this might be last year V8 can be built and put in trucks because of 2025 regs. I’m waiting for the guberment to lead by example and switch their fleets to electric.

Where did you hear this?

Re: New truck prices [Re: Yooper1978] #7561234
04/17/22 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Yooper1978
If Henry Ford could see it now.


I wonder how much of the cost goes to retired employees, at one point over 40% of the msrp of a vehicle was to cover uaw members that were no longer working.

Re: New truck prices [Re: Boco] #7561296
04/17/22 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You better get a new truck asap.before the price goes up,and they pull all the old gas guzzlers off the road.Not only that but they are supposed to stop making internal combustion vehicles not too far down the road.I wouldnt wait.
if stop make internal combustion, new design at first we'll likely be not good for long time

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561313
04/17/22 11:24 AM
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the govt needs to get out of vehicle requirements.

if a new truck without any circuit boards or computers, without any smog devices, with a carburetor, no seat belts, no radio, a simple standard transmission could be ordered, you could get a new pickup for 20 grand. call your congressman and thank him for the price of pickups


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: New truck prices [Re: danny clifton] #7561321
04/17/22 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
the govt needs to get out of vehicle requirements.

if a new truck without any circuit boards or computers, without any smog devices, with a carburetor, no seat belts, no radio, a simple standard transmission could be ordered, you could get a new pickup for 20 grand. call your congressman and thank him for the price of pickups



LOL, I member messing with points and carburetors, still do, but nice to drive 100-200k without fooling with much.

Re: New truck prices [Re: Rat Masterson] #7561323
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
If a recession hits trucks will get cheaper.


Not as the dollar continues to shrink.

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561326
04/17/22 11:41 AM
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My brother's '99 F250, 7.3, about a year ago.

He just priced new trucks and said, " Guess it'll have to.go another 400.000..."

I have the newest among me and my brothers, an '05, with the....6.0 PSD.
Still chugging along.

Another brother just called me, he's cuurently driving across Kansas.
'04 Cummins.

We tend to keep our stuff going. By choice.
With current price trends, not really a choice anymore.

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Re: New truck prices [Re: Dirty D] #7561394
04/17/22 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
Pickups have become the modern equivalent to what station wagons were in the '60's.
Most never haul or pull anything heavier than a new grill for the backyard.

Add that to the fact that Americans are fat and lazy and love their comfort.
A modern base pickup therefore comes with more stuff than years ago when we weren't so soft.

High demand for everyday driving to walmart while riding in the lap of luxury means more money.

Last Pickup I bought new was about 20 years ago. GMC heavy 3/4 ton, 2wd, and ZERO OPTIONS, 20K approx.

My wife has a Honda Minivan, I see that as a much more utilitarian vehicle for the majority of people than a pickup is. They cost less, can carry a full sheet of plywood inside along with 10ft long boards, hauls 7 people very comfortably and get 25 mpg while doing it.
But in our status driven society most men with issues surrounding their "manliness" are afraid to drive one.





I fit 26 8' 2x4s in a 98 Honda accord. Could fit 4 10" if I ran then on the dash up to the wind shield.

I truly like our mini vans. Like you say better for the family, can truly hall a lot, good mpg, can hall plants without them getting wind wiped, keep greens and cut flowers cool in the summer tell delivery, can pull a trailer and load onto the roof rack, and I don't have to pick deer up very high to load them.

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561395
04/17/22 12:41 PM
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Glad I bought mine last April before things got crazy. I got 12 percent off of list and it's worth more today than what
I paid for it. Many dealers are now adding 5-7000 or more to the MSRP. Crazy.

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561409
04/17/22 01:02 PM
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I bought my ‘04 GMC 2500 duramax diesel 4x4 a few months back for my business to pull my mini ex around. Best deal id found all over Facebook marketplace. Truck has 281K miles on it already but the ol boy was asking $10K. He settled for a check for $8500 and a gun in trade. Had to travel 5hrs one way to get it. Still worth it when everyone else was asking $12k-$15k for duramax diesels with upwards of 400k miles on them. Now if the price of diesel fuel would go down that would be a tremendous help. FJB!!!

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561414
04/17/22 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Originally Posted by Yooper1978
If Henry Ford could see it now.


I wonder how much of the cost goes to retired employees, at one point over 40% of the msrp of a vehicle was to cover uaw members that were no longer working.

Had an uncle collect a GM Buick city pension 8 years longer than he worked for Buick, he retired under UAW 30 and out program.


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Re: New truck prices [Re: danny clifton] #7561424
04/17/22 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
the govt needs to get out of vehicle requirements.

if a new truck without any circuit boards or computers, without any smog devices, with a carburetor, no seat belts, no radio, a simple standard transmission could be ordered, you could get a new pickup for 20 grand. call your congressman and thank him for the price of pickups

The truck you describe won't sell enough to justify production. Carbs when that's all we had were ok, but I wouldn't want one today, unless it was a hobby classic truck or car. demand, competition and availability drive prices. Vehicles from back in the day are cool, but required lots more maintenance.


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Re: New truck prices [Re: Feedinggrounds] #7561461
04/17/22 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Originally Posted by danny clifton
the govt needs to get out of vehicle requirements.

if a new truck without any circuit boards or computers, without any smog devices, with a carburetor, no seat belts, no radio, a simple standard transmission could be ordered, you could get a new pickup for 20 grand. call your congressman and thank him for the price of pickups

The truck you describe won't sell enough to justify production. Carbs when that's all we had were ok, but I wouldn't want one today, unless it was a hobby classic truck or car. demand, competition and availability drive prices. Vehicles from back in the day are cool, but required lots more maintenance.

I don't agree. They are purposely created a reason for price gouging.

Re: New truck prices [Re: nvwrangler] #7561464
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Good post...a few months back I TRIED buying a newer truck. I saw that the used truck market was hot and researched what my truck was valued at. So with cash in my pocket and my cleaned up truck I started the dealership process. They looked at me like I was crazy for what I wanted for my truck. Like it was already mentioned by lobo....they have increased their msrp and other add on taxes.
I like the looks of the newer Chevy Trail Boss trucks

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