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Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562290
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Americans can criticize Canada and Canada can criticize America but when it comes down to fighting and maintaining freedom we’re together as a people… politics aside!


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Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562300
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Originally Posted by Pike River
The Azov battalion is the excuse the Russian government used for the invasion. They are nazis that are trying to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine of Russians. Saying its ok to crucify a Russian is no different than saying its ok to crucify a Jew. Putin is scum but so is Zelesky.


You can't seriously believe that Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Jewish President of the Ukraine, supports the nazification of the Ukraine, which would lead to his and his families death? That's totally absurd.

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Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562307
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Many of you are acting like your Grandpa Joe. today he said one thing. then it didn't please others across the ocean somewhere. and he was intelligently corrected, and everything was fine. it won't happen again.

Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562308
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KeithC,
You don't think a Jewish leader would be involved in the killing of their own ethnicity in any way?

Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562309
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Lots on here lap up the russian propaganda,lol.
Common sense is out the window.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562317
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We in the West are taught so very little of history.
History matters.
Putin is atop the 3rd Roman Empire, or so many (maybe him also) believe.

https://theconversation.com/the-byzantine-history-of-putins-russian-empire-90616

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Originally Posted by Mark June
KeithC,
You don't think a Jewish leader would be involved in the killing of their own ethnicity in any way?


I very, very obviously never said that Mark.

I definitely don't believe a Jewish leader would help someone overthrow himself and kill his family.

Keith

Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562325
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We'd have to define "his family" I guess. I know you know that people in power have ALWAYS had a history of killing their family to remain in power. Happens all the time.

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Mark, I agree with you, but I don't think Americans know what you're talking about.

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Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562354
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From the article......

"Seventy years of Communist repression nearly finished them off, but since the Soviet Union’s demise they have been painstakingly reviving the unique medieval traditions of prayer, song, cuisine, dress, and handicrafts that are now protected by UNESCO as “Intangible Cultural Heritage.” They’re restoring their once-shattered communities. And they’re being welcomed back into the greater Russian community, even at the highest level; last year President Vladimir Putin paid a courtesy call to the Old Believers’ spiritual center at Rogozhskaya Zastava in Moscow, the first such gesture of reconciliation by a Russian leader in 350 years."


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Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: KOSOI] #7562355
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Originally Posted by KOSOI
Mark, I agree with you, but I don't think Americans know what you're talking about.


KOSOI, Oh I'm sure most of them have no idea.

Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7562861
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So Hannity tonight started his show that the Russian Donbas offensive has started. This has been talked about a lot during the last couple of weeks. It has been argued that the center of gravity for the Russians aims has always been in this eastern side of the modern Ukraine, not around Kiev or all of Ukraine. This can be debated for however long people want to debate but what happens in the Donbas in the next 2-3 weeks is really what makes or breaks Russian goals. Unless NATO intervenes, and then all bets are off and the calculus gets reworked.

The site where I copy the Rus Ministry of "Defense" daily briefings is run by a German guy, although there are people from all over the world who post on it. "B" usually writes a brief piece about every other day and the days between there is an open thread on Ukraine. This is what "B" wrote today. Laugh at it, throw rocks at it, do whatever moves you because you are free citizens but remember 2 things that make critical thinking.analysis, 1) there are always people who know more than you probably do, and 2) always accept the possibility that everything you read can be a lie. Those sort of form some bumper pads you can bounce your pinball off of. I'm sure there are some "bumpers" that can be added but that where I start with when thinking about things.

Anyway, "B" started the newest thread about 18-20 hours ago with this. Get your popcorn, get your sledge hammer, whatever, your choice...

Russian and Donbas forces have cleared the city of Mariupol except for the giant metallurgic complex of Azovstal which is held by some estimated 4,000 men, including many from the fascist Azov battalion. On Sunday Russia opened corridors across the front line and asked for those forces to surrender. However the Zelensky government ordered them to stay and to continue to bind Russian forces which otherwise could be used elsewhere: Russia had given the Ukrainian fighters in Mariupol until Sunday morning to lay down their weapons or be “eliminated.” On Sunday, the forces at the plant ignored the deadline, and Ukrainian officials vowed that they would not surrender. In response, the Russian assault intensified, with missiles and bombs hitting the city and new attacks occurring near the plant, according to the Ukrainian military.
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Ukrainian officials said on Sunday that the struggle was not over for Mariupol, which for two months has tied up Russian troops and resources that are badly needed elsewhere. The Azovstal complex is a 2 by 2 miles industrial area. It can be surrounded and controlled by a relatively small force. Those within the area no longer have heavy artillery ammunition and presumably little other supplies. The Russian forces can see and bomb anything that moves on the open ground and can otherwise sit back and wait their enemies out. I do not believe that holding on to Azovstal will significantly delay the upcoming second phase of the Russian operation which will surround and destroy the Ukrainian army on the Donbas front.

The Russian military has two huge advantage over the Ukrainian forces in the east. One is of course its air superiority. The other is the unimpeded supply line which allows it to get as much heavy artillery ammunition, fuel and food to its forces as it needs. Without fuel the Ukrainian army can not move and without constant supply, especially of large amounts of artillery munitions, it can not counter Russian artillery which will be in heavy use against it. Nearly all of the Ukrainian ammunition and fuel supplies have been bombed and destroyed. What is trickling in through its western borders has difficulties to reach the eastern front and is anyway not enough to supply an actively fighting and maneuvering army.

On April 16 Russia shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane that was bringing 'western' weapons to Odessa. Today it destroyed another ammunition depot near Lviv were 'western' weapons are crossing the border into Ukraine. Some bits of fuel allegedly still reach the Ukraine through trains from Moldova. But that is far from enough.
Here is a week old report on the fuel situation:

Since the beginning of the war, the number of gas stations in Ukraine has decreased three times, and private fuel consumption has decreased by about the same amount, said Sergey Kuyun, director of the A-95 consulting group. “According to our estimates, a third of the total number of gas stations is operating, this is about 2.5 thousand stations, before the war there were 7.5 thousand. Of course, the main reason is the lack of fuel. Consumption has also decreased three times compared to the pre-war level,” he said at a closed briefing at the Media Center in Lviv on Monday. At the same time, Kuyun noted that traders or network owners are forced to provide their most strategic and powerful facilities, located mainly in regional centers or on main routes, while peripheral stations are forced to stand idle, although there are also a lot of consumers there.
According to him, the shortage of fuel became especially aggravated after the shutdown of the Kremenchug Oil Refinery as a result of a missile attack by Russian invaders.
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On April 2, the Russian invaders destroyed the infrastructure of the Kremenchug oil refinery with their shelling, and it stopped working.
The damage done daily to the Ukrainian military and military industry is huge. One can get a sense of it when one reads through the briefings of the Russian defense ministry (the April 18 briefing has already been posted on tman today). This has now been going on daily for more than a month. While the precision of the above numbers is somewhat uncertain I do not think that they are exaggerated by much. Yesterday there was no particular heavy fighting and the equipment destroyed on that one day alone was already more than what the U.S. has in total promised to send.

That means that the military destruction and defeat of the Ukrainian forces in the country's east is all but assured.

What then is the strategy that government in Kiev and its overlords in Washington DC are following? Why has the Ukraine not given up? Why didn't it continue to negotiate with the Russian side? Is their hope that their daily over the top 'Russia is losing' propaganda will create enough political momentum for a large scale NATO intervention?
That would end in a disaster for the NATO forces.

Russia is obviously prepared for it. It has so far held back large parts of its own forces. Russia has at least 12 tactical missile artillery brigades, each with 36 Iskander missile launchers and 144 fire ready missiles. Only three of the those brigades plus a third of two other ones have so far been committed:
Three brigades, or a total of 36 Iskander launchers (two missiles each plus two resupply missiles per launcher) were deployed to Belarus as part of the buildup to war in Ukraine. Two additional brigades (12 launchers) were also assigned to Russia's Southern Military District and moved forward in the area of Belgorod near the Russian border; and to the area of Krasnodar, south of Ukraine. Most of the Russian airforce has likewise been held back. On March 24 the Pentagon claimed that Russia was running out of precision munitions. However, if the Russian defense ministry report is correct, at least 16 precision air ground missiles and 7 Iskander were used just yesterday. To me that does not sound like 'limited supplies'.


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Re: Russian military daily action reports [Re: NonPCfed] #7565031
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This was from April 19, with the 8 hours ahead of North America by time. The first half of the "report" is interesting in that its either that the Rus military is trying to cover for atrocities they've already committed recently or they know some of the Ukie bad actors are planning some for the the PR side of the war. The second part about giving a truce for the defenders of the Azovstal steel plant complex didn't get many takers, although several thousand Ukie defenders in Mariupol and the Donbas have surrendered during the past week. Patrick Lancaster has some recent videos around that part of Mariupol that shows the grim reality of warfare, such as how fast the flesh will rot off of a dead human's face in not overly hot spring conditions. Youtube will make you "prove" your age to watch those videos, Rumble won't. This isn't video games...

From Russian MoD Telegram channel...


Emergency statement of the Joint Coordination Headquarters of the Russian Federation for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine (April 19, 2022)
April 19, 2022

According to the available reliable information, the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) is preparing another provocation to accuse the servicemen of the Russian Federation of so-called war crimes with the mass destruction of civilians in the Odessa region.

To this end, in the near future it is planned to dress one of the SSU units in the uniform of Russian servicemen and make a demonstrative shooting of local residents.

Photo and video footage of this action with alleged "Russian atrocities" will be published by Ukrainian and Western news agencies to immediately promote fakes.

The upcoming provocation of the Ukrainian authorities demonstrates their inhumane attitude to the fate of peaceful citizens of Ukraine and testifies to the complete disregard for all norms of morality and international humanitarian law.

We warn the countries of the "civilized West" led by the United States in advance that the Russian Federation has an operational evidence base about the upcoming next terrible crimes of the Kiev regime.

Taking into account the catastrophic situation at the Azovstal metallurgical plant, as well as guided by purely humane principles, the Russian Armed Forces once again offer the militants of nationalist battalions and foreign mercenaries from 12:00 (Moscow time) on April 19, 2022 to cease any hostilities and lay down their arms. All who lay down their weapons are guaranteed the preservation of life.

For the practical implementation of the measures of this next humanitarian operation, the following algorithm of actions is provided:

from 13:00 (Moscow time), continuous communication is established between the Russian and Ukrainian sides for the mutual exchange of information;

from 13:30 (Moscow time), the militants of nationalist battalions and foreign mercenaries – on the one hand, the Russian Armed Forces together with the military formations of the Donetsk People's Republic – on the other hand, declare a ceasefire and guarantee its strict observance. The actual beginning of the ceasefire by both sides is indicated by the raising of flags: from the Russian side – red, from the Ukrainian side – white around the perimeter of Azovstal. In addition, the fact that the parties are ready to introduce a ceasefire is confirmed by all communication channels;

from 14:00 to 16:00 (Moscow time) – the exit of all Ukrainian armed units and foreign mercenaries without exception, without any weapons and ammunition.

Once again, we call on the official authorities of Kiev to show prudence, to give appropriate instructions to the militants about ending senseless resistance and leaving the hotbed of resistance. However, realizing that they will not receive such orders and commands from the Kiev authorities, we urge them to make such a decision on their own and lay down their arms.

In addition, we appeal to all AFU servicemen and foreign mercenaries - with the attitude of the Kiev authorities, an inglorious fate awaits all of you. Do not test your fate, but take the only right decision to end hostilities and lay down your arms now, wherever your "curators" force you to fight for the ideas of Nazism. The Russian Federation guarantees to each of you the preservation of life and compliance with all the norms of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners of war, as has already happened with the AFU servicemen who previously surrendered in Mariupol.

This urgent statement is subject to immediate publication and communication to
the United Nations, OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross and other international organizations through all available information resources.


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Also from April 19:

Second briefing for the day by Russian MoD Telegram channel...

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

As a result of the strike, high-precision air-based missiles hit 2 strong points near Kalinovo-Popasnoe and 6 areas of enemy's manpower and military equipment concentration near Mirnoe, Slovyansk and Popasnoe.

Up to 180 Ukrainian nationalists and 15 armoured vehicles were destroyed.

1 Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile launcher was also destroyed near Barvenkovo.

Operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 31 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 2 command posts and 28 areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration near Razdolnoe and Novogrodovka, as well as 1 ammunition depot for multiple rocket launchers near Privol'e.

Russian air defence means shot down 3 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the air over Chernobaevka, Zaliznoe and Pokrovskoe.

During the day, missile troops hit 2 command posts of Ukrainian units, 1 ammunition depot, 1 artillery battery, as well as 1 area of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

📊In total, 140 aircraft, 490 unmanned aerial vehicles, 253 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2,367 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 256 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,021 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,225 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

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