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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562324
04/18/22 02:40 PM
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Here is another thought. I propose that Christians are almost atheists. Don't nail me on the exact numbers here, as I am probably missing some, but let's just say with the plethora of different religions out there, there are say, 1500 gods that I don't believe in. A Cristian does not believe in 1499 of them either, and probably for similar reasons that I don't. So in essence ... well nearly there ...right ??

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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562333
04/18/22 02:48 PM
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Well, not exactly. Scholars estimate there are 100,000 idolized gods, near abouts, and followers of Jesus know only one.... only one....
rose from the dead after being dead for so long that it was impossible to do it.

So when and if another god were to rise from the ultimate god thinning out process. which is death, then the situation changes.
Death thins out modern day gods among us humans too. Levels the field every day all day. Darn that death. Can't change it. Can't defeat it no matter what the plan is.

Well, some say, why would a god come to earth? It they're god.
Well to do many signs and wonders, and fulfill over 300 prophecies from a period over 1500 years so that it could be written down, passed on, and here we are!

99,999 ways to pray to a rock, or a spirit, or a demon but only One is Risen.

How did 12 dudes change the world anyway? Gather 11 pals, charge into a mean place, say pick N. Korea and call it 1st century Roman Empire, and try that.
Against every known odd and opposition. Um. Good luck. You'll never make a dent.

Grand Funk was right! Those Apostles were some kind of wonderful!

Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562343
04/18/22 02:59 PM
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My guess is that had you been born in india, you would probably be just as convinced that Buddha is the one and only true god out there. All swings and roundabouts to me Mark


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562347
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I think thats a pretty good guess


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562352
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Convinced is a good descriptor. I like the way you use that thesis in other religions.
You may try to use it for Christians but I'd ask you to defend that statement and show me one person who had to be convinced to be a follower of Christ.
I'd say the entire world is opposed to the real truth and no one is convinced to faith.
Doesn't actually work that way anyway.

I'm Augustinian >>>>
Faith seeking understanding and never understanding seeking faith.

And I have coffee and lunch 4 days a week here at the hospital with pantheists. None of us disrespecting each other. 2 are Buddhists from Indonesia and 1 is a Spiritist from India.

Honestly, all the blanket statements are so shallow, they won't float a boat.


Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Scuba1] #7562367
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Can not everyone make up his own mind on what to do on that issue ?? I am an atheist yes but far from a liberal and I do not begrudge other their belief in something. If it helps them, thats fine by me and I am happy for them. Just as I am happy not to believe in this to be abstract fairytale. Heck once harvest comes around, I'll again have way more that us two can eat and will share my surplus with the less fortunate. best way to reach them with the least fuss it to drop the stuff off at a church with a food pantry thing going. Thats where a bunch of people meet and let them deal with the logistics of giving the stuff away. Why do I plant more than we need..... because I can and the tractor does most of the work. If I could only teach that thing how to pick beans and corn laugh
What I am trying to convey is that you are not a liberal by default if you don't believe in gods

In most cases I feel it is normal for an most atheists to automatically default to the left. You are different from most after seeing many of your posts because you show positive moral common sense. That sets you apart from most of the others, IMHO. Honestly, I was surprised to hear you are an atheist.


Are we living in a time when intelligent people ae silenced so stupid people won't be offended?
Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562376
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I was brought up a evangelic reformist in Germany. Going to church and all that ....afternoon bible lesson twice a week. The church even had a ping pong table up in the attic as I remember. Kids soak stuff up like little sponges. You get told what is right and what is wrong etc. I guess that is similar accrues the globe. With me it just did not stick when I got older and started to want some sort of proof and logic behind it all. So I ended up in the reality that does not have fairies, santa and gods. Things look ok to me from where i am standing.


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562384
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Yes, ones of those that never heard God in the storm.

Try this, be still and know that I am God. As the psalmist advised.

Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562385
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Trapper7 that is probably because I spend more time with my dog than any other being alive today blush


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Scuba1] #7562390
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
My guess is that had you been born in india, you would probably be just as convinced that Buddha is the one and only true god out there. All swings and roundabouts to me Mark

People always want to make another person here on earth a god.buddha is not God.


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562397
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Question is would the post Office be open more days, Would kids have to spend more time in school Would we no longer have Sunday off or get time and a half for working Could we then marry our dog or cat adopt puppies and consider them a dependant on our taxes Would the NFL play on Tuesday Or would our lifestyle based on Religion stay the same without Religion


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562401
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Thank God God doesn't want to get rid of us.


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Bruce T] #7562413
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Thank God God doesn't want to get rid of us.


You think he quit that sore of nonsense after the flood thing ??


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Scuba1] #7562415
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Thank God God doesn't want to get rid of us.


You think he quit that sore of nonsense after the flood thing ??

Naw He just gave us liberals


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562426
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Scuba, glad you brought the ping pong table, this thread resembles a game of ping pong!


~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Scuba1] #7562430
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Thank God God doesn't want to get rid of us.


You think he quit that sore of nonsense after the flood thing ??

God has never given up on us.


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Scuba1] #7562439
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Thank God God doesn't want to get rid of us.


You think he quit that sore of nonsense after the flood thing ??


I would comment that the Resurrection answers that Q once and forever more.

Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562444
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Te get back to the original post. For some folks, the belief in god is all they have so one should not take that away from them. For me personally its a mute point as god does not exist so you cant get rid of something that is not there in the first place.


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Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Redknot] #7562447
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Christians don't have 1500 Gods, Christians may have 1500 interpretations of God and with theology, tenets, creeds, oaths, rituals and sacraments they are able to create and find one of those 1500 or so that fits them or suits them. For those that believe in the One God of all the Earth, then God is an umbrella for all the non Christian beliefs and faiths as well. We have for several thousands of years had a very difficult time even accepting that, let alone live our lives in accordance to that. Religions world wide have been granted many privileges and benefits to function within societies and nations. Many very good things have come from those benefits and as all things man manages some not so charitable actions as well. As I have stated in the past I am just so grateful that God was not a theologian.

Bryce

Re: Letís Get Rid of God [Re: Finster] #7562454
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I never said that christians had 1500 gods. ... read that post again ... s.l.o.w.l.y .... then you may get it .


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