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Eye in the sky #7563262
04/19/22 10:16 AM
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Big Brother

Who will have access to all this information being gathered? Lot more questions then answers. Bet they won't be tracking illegal aliens as their main target.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563278
04/19/22 10:36 AM
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Thats interesting but unless they are tethered to the ground they will drift with the wind. It may be since the article says they are solar powered they will have an electric motor and propeller. Be a type of blimp rather than a balloon. I wonder also how they will protect jet aircraft from sucking one in and shelling out. The article makes me want more details.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563288
04/19/22 10:59 AM
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The FCC documents show that Southcom’s balloons are carrying small, satellite-like vehicles housing sophisticated sensors and communication gear. One of those sensors is a synthetic aperture radar intended to detect every car or boat in motion on a 25-mile swath beneath the balloon.

The balloons also have advanced mesh networking technologies that allow them to communicate with one another, share data and pass it to receivers on the ground below.

https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=AFSCWH&PC=AFSC&q=Military+eye+in+the+sky+ballons

Appears they can stay in place for extended times using altitudes as the winds go in different directions at differing altitudes.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563293
04/19/22 11:08 AM
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Watch the movie, Enemy of the State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman. Very scary and probably more real than you think!


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563295
04/19/22 11:10 AM
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Bunch of "Peepin' Toms"


Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563316
04/19/22 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifter
The FCC documents show that Southcom’s balloons are carrying small, satellite-like vehicles housing sophisticated sensors and communication gear. One of those sensors is a synthetic aperture radar intended to detect every car or boat in motion on a 25-mile swath beneath the balloon.

The balloons also have advanced mesh networking technologies that allow them to communicate with one another, share data and pass it to receivers on the ground below.

https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=AFSCWH&PC=AFSC&q=Military+eye+in+the+sky+ballons

Appears they can stay in place for extended times using altitudes as the winds go in different directions at differing altitudes.


Synthetic Aperture Radar is amazing (and scary) stuff.



Mike


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563333
04/19/22 11:51 AM
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The article says they can travel up to 250 miles from the launch site at a max altitude of 65,000'. Anywhere close to that altitude is well above commercial airline traffic. Going up and coming down through commercial air space would require some air traffic control. And I expect any military operations above commercial altitudes would already be aware of the locations.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563340
04/19/22 12:03 PM
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how do the balloons move up and down?


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563446
04/19/22 02:11 PM
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How they work

Current balloon technology accomplishes this change in altitude by increasing or decreasing the balloon’s mass by pumping ambient air into and out of a separate section of the balloon called a ballonet. At altitude, this minor change in mass causes a corresponding rise or fall in the balloon, enabling it to change direction based on the wind patterns. It follows then that the operational problem now becomes discerning these high-altitude wind directions.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563460
04/19/22 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifter
How they work

Current balloon technology accomplishes this change in altitude by increasing or decreasing the balloon’s mass by pumping ambient air into and out of a separate section of the balloon called a ballonet. At altitude, this minor change in mass causes a corresponding rise or fall in the balloon, enabling it to change direction based on the wind patterns. It follows then that the operational problem now becomes discerning these high-altitude wind directions.

Did the idea come from watching our current politicians it sounds so familiar


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563465
04/19/22 02:39 PM
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I am now finding this has been going on since July of 2018 and we are just now finding out.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563581
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thanks pete


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563587
04/19/22 05:20 PM
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If one flies over my house,I will moon it.
Then it will be fun when they have to identify me in court.


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563876
04/20/22 12:33 AM
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Boco's butt will break the camera! grin

A local company out of Sioux Falls called Raven's (the division that actually makes balloons and blimps is called Aerostar) makes some of them. A good number of the engineers in the place I work have left to go work for Raven's. Some parts of Uncle Sam (indirectly) pay better than more direct parts of Uncle Sam. Or at least that's the reason people give when leaving...

https://ravenaerostar.com/


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Re: Eye in the sky [Re: Drifter] #7563982
04/20/22 07:42 AM
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I have seen that name in my reading up on this. I am amazed this is being used in many places and is so quiet about the capabilities. They are being manufactured by several companies around the world as well.


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