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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563575
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ps. nice bird


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563592
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Danny, sorry to have (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) in your wheaties.

Our state wildlife doesnít charge additional for turkey tags. Itís included in the big game harvest card you get for deer season. My grandpa bought me a lifetime hunting license when I was born so it costs me all of about $5 per year to turkey hunt here


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563595
04/19/22 05:26 PM
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I think itís $27 here. Just bought one but forgot the exact number. But Iím fine with it, money goes back into the wildlife, not being used for any political pet project i care nothing about, but I do care about having turkeys to hunt.


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563597
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Second one for the northern units where you can hunt two are cheaper I think


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563599
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Ks, I agree. Turkeys have actually been something that has been very successfully managed. We have more turkeys now across the US than we probably ever did. Even when I was a kid there werenít many around here. Mossy oak sells a turkey stamp that gives into turkey conservation efforts. I bought one


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563604
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Nice coondagger2

KsTrapper88, the money goes to keep cost down for old men and their campers in the state parks. Its why its now wildlife and parks instead of just wildlife. They are getting far to money hungry. Some of the money goes for walk in hunting which I think is great. I would rather buy a 4 dollar turkey tag and a 20 dollar walk in hunting permit. Let the people in campers pay for the parks.

need to have open season on hawks owls and eagles just like we do coyotes as well


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563618
04/19/22 05:46 PM
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Good suggestions there Danny, I would support those changes.

I donít even mind the cost as is if itís going to turkeys, not camper hookups

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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563648
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I made the change to TSS and a red dot this year. Terrible expensive, but I like to turkey hunt so I treated myself to them. All I have to say is WOW!!. I wish I would have switched earlier. I have put 6 down this year. They all were down right there with hardly any flopping.

Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563761
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Thanks gentlemen.

WF: I would bet your nephews buddy did not pattern his gun ahead of time. Some of the tss loads with extremely heavy payloads do not shoot true to point of aim and can leave you scratching your head. That is why you see a lot of guys with the red dot sights that they can "sight in" like a rifle. I've found that by shooting a slightly more standard load weight the point of aim will come back to meet the point of impact.

For example, the 1-5/8oz load in my 28ga requires a red dot to shoot true. The 1oz to 1-3/8 loads load do not


Okay, hang on a second. I shoot a lot of 28, but never dealt with TSS. Is it that dense that you can actually get 1 5/8 oz. in a 2 3/4"? I know there is some chambering in 3" now, but that's a huge jump from my 5/8 oz. steel and 3/4 oz. lead, max 1 oz. with some factory loads. Assuming it's a low velocity load to keep pressure down?


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563766
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Keith, yep, due to the extremely high density of tss you can fit that. Fits just right in the TPS 28ga wad.

The load runs about 1150 FPS at a little over 11,000 psi. If you wanted to tip toe the edge of the max pressure you could get it to 1200.

I donít have any guns that will shoot the 3Ē shells

The 1-5/8oz load is a roll crimp load. The rest of my loads are fold crimped. My favorite load is probably the 1-3/8oz load of tss 9ís at 1200 FPS. Just great patterns


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563767
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Here is a pattern from my buddys 28ga with the 1-5/8oz load at 40 yards. His shoots pretty true to point of aim without a red dot

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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563772
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Well done coondagger2, that's a nice bird!

Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563886
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Coon - no he did not pattern it. Hillbilly voodoo magic is what people use around here.

On my Turkey gun I use a Leupold 2x7 shotgun scope and do surgery.

Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563911
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What choke do you guys use with the tss?


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563944
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My one and only turkey was taken with a Remington 11-48 in 28 gauge. Lead #5's rolled it clean.


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7563984
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Here is a pattern from my buddys 28ga with the 1-5/8oz load at 40 yards. His shoots pretty true to point of aim without a red dot

[Linked Image]


Why do i see pics of shotgun patterns of a circle with an off center dot? Ive patterned shotguns before, but i just draw a dot on cardboard and shoot it and see how it looks.

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Originally Posted by DWC


Why do i see pics of shotgun patterns of a circle with an off center dot? Ive patterned shotguns before, but i just draw a dot on cardboard and shoot it and see how it looks.


The dot is were you aim, the circle goes around the center of the pattern (10"). Ideally you want the center of the pattern to be at your aim point.


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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by DWC
Why do i see pics of shotgun patterns of a circle with an off center dot? Ive patterned shotguns before, but i just draw a dot on cardboard and shoot it and see how it looks.


The dot is were you aim, the circle goes around the center of the pattern (10"). Ideally you want the center of the pattern to be at your aim point.

Correct, you draw the 10" circle around the part of your pattern that is most dense. You sight your red dot in so that the densest part of your pattern is on the small circle where you aim


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7564382
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I know this is a 28 ga post. But my son took this one today with his 20 ga. Shooting rouge 1 5/8 oz # 9. 32 yards. Flapped his wings twice and was no more. Itís expensive, but well worth the price in the smaller gauges.


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Re: The little 28 gauge that could [Re: coondagger2] #7564663
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Congrats to your son!! 20 is a hammer too


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