Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
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04/20/22 09:33 PM
04/20/22 09:33 PM
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Moosetrot
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/20/22 10:04 PM
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GREENCOUNTYPETE
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I am surprised the ban on "killing contests" was so close
I would have expected a lot more people to see through the BS extremely bias wording of the question.
these are almost entirely coyote hunting contests
had you phrased that as , do you support prohibiting coyote hunting tournaments I don't think you would have seen the same numbers , I don't think some of your fishermen and such understood it wasn't a deer to turkey hunting tournament.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/21/22 10:58 AM
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BvrRetriever
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I wonder how a wanton waste law would pertain to the handling of NV fur. I think the way that question was worded, you would be in violation unless you process the fur or consume the meat.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/21/22 04:49 PM
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Scott__aR
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As I said ... You had to read the questions not only for what they said, but also for what they didn't say. Some questions were pretty open ended and I'm sure they were written that way on purpose.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
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04/21/22 06:57 PM
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WIMarshRAT
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About 28,000. Still about half of record turnout, but twice the turnout as last year.
Last edited by WIMarshRAT; 04/21/22 06:59 PM.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/21/22 09:19 PM
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Folks voting online tend to be even more educated IMO..if folks were unaware of a key point, they were not going to hear that point in the meeting. Instead they check out after they hear the same points over and over.
The end of the Congress will not be because folks can vote online. The end of the Congress will come from delegates refusing to engage with the hunting and fishing public in the channel of their choosing. In the last few years, more folks are aware they have an opportunity to participate so they participate. Just because someone values a different variable of the question, doesn't make them uninformed.
Take the passenger on the ATV question. Passed by wide margins. Folks that are extreme safety focused vote against. But lots of folks know that they can do it safely because they don't horse around so they vote for it. Both sides can be right, but you cant guage public opinion with less than 10,000 folks providing input.
If you don't like the way something turned out, get more folks involved, not less.
My biggest issue has been the lack of elections. That set back the WCC and CDACs.
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Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...it's about learning to dance in the rain!
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/21/22 09:43 PM
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WiMarshRat- You and I will never agree on this and I refuse to engage in a long-winded debate on the validity and efficacy of the online voting...excuse me again...survey. I have been attending the Spring Hearings since sometime in the early 80's, and many, many times I have seen opinions on particular subjects changed as a result of discussion and debate with the end result of informed votes. We will no longer have that opportunity.
If you are happy with that, wonderful for you. I have stated my opinion, am sticking with it, and frankly do not have time nor the energy anymore to discuss this with you on here as we have since the inception of a system that allows people to click on a little box so they think they are making a difference. Instead of listening, learning, discussing, and sometimes debating a particular issue so they actually know what they are voting for or against, they are quickly clicking their emotional responses on whatever device they may be using, instead of investing just a couple hours at the "Spring Hearings", which is now a misnomer for Spring survey.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/22/22 12:17 AM
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The Beav
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Remember the earn a buck fiasco? Kill a doe and earn another buck tag. I can remember dumpsters full Of does with just a ear split so they could kill another buck. That's wanton waste.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: The Beav]
#7566039
04/22/22 01:15 AM
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Remember the earn a buck fiasco? Kill a doe and earn another buck tag. I can remember dumpsters full Of does with just a ear split so they could kill another buck. That's wanton waste. Beav, you are falling victim to the deer hunter mentality…I agree that type of abuse likely happens. But the proposed law is all encompassing…it pertains to trapping, hunting and fishing. have you ever caught a mangy coyote? Did you take it home and skin it or eat it? If no, you’ll be an outlaw under the new proposal.
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
[Re: Moosetrot]
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04/22/22 11:57 AM
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Really surprised at the margin of the wildlife killing contests.Is the WI DNR working to end predator hunts?
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Re: Wisconsin Spring Hearing Results
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04/22/22 12:20 PM
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yep. IMO I think our DNR dose not give a hoot about the hunter ,trapper anymore. They are targeting the spandex crowd.
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