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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7578358
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
J Staton god complex ? Really ? Explain


Because you think that you know that the baby born to the crackhead mother and gangster daddy would be better off dead than born, while in reality he/she has every chance of growing up to become the next president, or next Elon Musk.


Nailed it...


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578368
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The women should have the right to decide what's best for her.


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7578370
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
J Staton god complex ? Really ? Explain


Because you think that you know that the baby born to the crackhead mother and gangster daddy would be better off dead than born, while in reality he/she has every chance of growing up to become the next president, or next Elon Musk.


Id take those odds and go to Vegas and be a big winner.


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7578377
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
J Staton god complex ? Really ? Explain


Because you think that you know that the baby born to the crackhead mother and gangster daddy would be better off dead than born, while in reality he/she has every chance of growing up to become the next president, or next Elon Musk.


Guess you never seen kids growing up with FAS


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578380
05/06/22 04:58 PM
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My body my choice…unless it involves a vaccine then you should me made to get it or be looked down upon and treated totally different.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: The Beav] #7578419
05/06/22 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
The women should have the right to decide what's best for her.



The time to decide was before she spread her legs.


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578423
05/06/22 05:52 PM
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Beav, I'm sure you know quite well that life is much more than the odds in Vegas.

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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578424
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Boco, I'm sure some would suffer all to see just one more sunrise. It's above my paygrade to decide whether a child sees one sunrise.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: The Beav] #7578425
05/06/22 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
The women should have the right to decide what's best for her.

Wow.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: BigBob] #7578426
05/06/22 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBob
Originally Posted by 2zwudz
Yes there will be riots! A bunch of nut jobs!!!

On both sides!

Not on this issue. Only the left gets their panties in bunch.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578427
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Some have to step up to be the conscience for those who have none.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578428
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but it is my opinion that abortions should be legal. I don't wish to spend my tax dollars to support parents who do want their children. It is not a political issue to me. As long as contraception is legal, abortion should be also.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578431
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The earliest a baby has been born and lived was 21 weeks and 1 day.

https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12427-uab-hospital-delivers-record-breaking-premature-baby

I don't think any abortions should be allowed after 20 weeks unless the mother's life is very severely threatened. I think abortions at any age should be strongly discouraged. I would be okay with all abortions being banned, except for when necessary to save the mother, or in cases of rape and incest.

I did the math and posted the numbers before. There are 36 families looking to adopt for every baby aborted in the US. There is around 2,000,000 US families, actively enrolled to adopt available babies. 3,477,000 more US women, with fertility problems, are interested in adopting babies. Most want to adopt more babies, after the first.

https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/waiting_adoptive_families

Over 81,000,000 Americans have considered adopting. Families know the chances of being able to adopt a baby is exceedingly slim.

There is a huge shortage of babies to adopt.

Destroying all the wonderful potential of a human baby is deeply saddening and disgusting to me.

Keith

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: 2zwudz] #7578445
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What some of you may not consider is a woman that is determined to not carry a pregnancy to term will find a way to end that pregnancy one way or another. Legal or not. I know a woman who nearly bled to death from a botched "coat hanger" abortion in a country where it was illegal. If we turn back Roe V Wade do you really think that will change young womens' minds about terminating a pregnancy?

I say you try to reach out to these women in other more effective ways. Isn't controlling others what Dems are always accused of doing?


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: The Beav] #7578453
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Originally Posted by The Beav
The women should have the right to decide what's best for her.


How about we let the person scheduled to be terminated come to fruition make that decision? If I've learned anything through life, wisdom isn't an age greentree...


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7578456
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
What some of you may not consider is a woman that is determined to not carry a pregnancy to term will find a way to end that pregnancy one way or another. Legal or not. I know a woman who nearly bled to death from a botched "coat hanger" abortion in a country where it was illegal. If we turn back Roe V Wade do you really think that will change young womens' minds about terminating a pregnancy?

I say you try to reach out to these women in other more effective ways. Isn't controlling others what Dems are always accused of doing?


You should shut off yourTV.. but you won't

Control is what you Dems are all about.

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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7578458
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
What some of you may not consider is a woman that is determined to not carry a pregnancy to term will find a way to end that pregnancy one way or another. Legal or not. I know a woman who nearly bled to death from a botched "coat hanger" abortion in a country where it was illegal. If we turn back Roe V Wade do you really think that will change young womens' minds about terminating a pregnancy?

I say you try to reach out to these women in other more effective ways. Isn't controlling others what Dems are always accused of doing?

Women would take precautions more seriously if abortion wasn't so readily available. You have a political party that can't even admit that what they condone amounts to infanticide.

Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7578499
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
There's absolutely zero need to kill babies in this country. Most states have, and all states should have, baby drop boxes where mothers can anonymously drop off unwanted babies so that they can be given to people who DO want them. To that end, states need to work on making it MUCH easier and cheaper for folks to adopt all these unwanted babies.

Exactly right.


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Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: The Beav] #7578513
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Originally Posted by The Beav
The women should have the right to decide what's best for her.

Does that extend to unborn females?


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Abortion conflict?? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7578516
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
What some of you may not consider is a woman that is determined to not carry a pregnancy to term will find a way to end that pregnancy one way or another. Legal or not. I know a woman who nearly bled to death from a botched "coat hanger" abortion in a country where it was illegal. If we turn back Roe V Wade do you really think that will change young womens' minds about terminating a pregnancy?

I say you try to reach out to these women in other more effective ways. Isn't controlling others what Dems are always accused of doing?


What the court did was rule that there is no constitutional right to an abortion.
This is correct, abortion is not mentioned in the constitution no matter how much one tries to find it and twist it its not in there.

Abortion is not made illegal, it was just pushed down to the states to do as their voters decide.

Some states will preserve the rights of all innocent humans others like Oregon will decide that the most innocent of all humans are OK to Kill.

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