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Value of antique arms? #7582235
05/11/22 08:36 PM
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My brother came into some antique arms from a collector that passed away. Any idea what these are and their worth? There are a total of three large caliber rifles, I took a some pics:
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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582237
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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582239
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Saw a date of 1878 on one of them.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582244
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I see a 43 Swiss and a French Boumont.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582261
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Any idea on the values?


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: 160user] #7582275
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Originally Posted by 160user
I see a 43 Swiss and a French Boumont.


Yep top is a Swiss Vetterli a lot of them came in back in the 90s, my local gun store has a couple for around the 300 mark and their in better shape, I bought one back then along with several hundred rounds of ammo for it, was cheap shooting, it’s a rim fire cartridge it’s actually 10.4 X 38mm

Not sure about the middle one


The bottom one looks like a Schmidt Ruben


For price I would check gun broker





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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582279
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None of those look to be in very good shape so except for the middle which I don’t know, the top and bottom are only worth a couple hundred at most in the shape their in



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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582309
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Nice old looking guns.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582329
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They are actually in pretty good shape. They are dusty because they were suspended form the ceiling of the cabin that this old gun collector lived in.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582352
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
They are actually in pretty good shape. They are dusty because they were suspended form the ceiling of the cabin that this old gun collector lived in.


Ok, still except for the middle which I don’t know the other two are not high dollar even if they are in perfect shape, but there interesting guns



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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582374
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Thanks Nightlife. Very helpful.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582395
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There is five Swiss Vetterli's on Gun Broker right now. Four are in the $475-600 range with no bids and one at $228 fourteen bids, started at a penny and has nine days left.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582608
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First rifle is a 41 Swiss. Easily converted to center fire and Lee still makes very affordable dies for the 41 Swiss. Make the brass out of 8mm Lebel. Converting it to centerfire can be done in less than an hour. Super easy and directions are all over the internet. I have one and shoot it quite a bit with trailboss powder. Very accrate at 100 yards. This Swiss rifle has a tube fed magazine but its very critical on COL or they end up getting all jammed up, so its better to jut fire it single shot. Yours looks like it might have a couple holes drilled in the receiver that aren't original.

Second rifle is the Dutch Beaumont, 11mm and by far the most accurate black powder cartridge gun I own and shoot. I've killed two deer with mine. Brass is readily available, dies come from CH and use 45-70 lead. The magazines on these rifle are not detachable but if you ever get to disassembling it, check out the machining on it. They took a solid block of steel and machined out the internals to make the magazine. These Beaumonts were also chromed instead of blued. it should have a silverish looking finish.

Last is a French MLE rifle, it could be 11mm or 8 mm lebel.

Values are not a whole lot especially if they don't have the ram rods. But if you are looking for some super fun guns to take the the range, you have them. It'll cost a little bit into getting set up to reload but they are all fairly common to get the brass and components for.

Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582615
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The second one is a Dutch Beaumont. The firing pin spring is a V type leaf. No idea on value, sorry.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582638
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Thanks Ammorat. Two of them did have attached ramrods. My brother will just want to sell them but thanks for the good info.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582652
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Complete military guns are always in demand Price depends on when you sell Not the same amount of interest now as in the winter months Value probably is 200 apiece selling price totally different 303 Brits unaltered commonly go for 700 more or less Classic Firearms had complete 6.5 carcano's for 450 now i think they're around 3 but nothing standsout about them yours stand out super cool


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582659
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One more pic:
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I worked the action on a couple of them and everything still worked just fine.

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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582782
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Here’s a picture of some of my old cartridges I shoot.
The 41 Swiss and Beaumont is what two of your guns will shoot

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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582792
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Interesting! Thanks for sharing that pic.


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Re: Value of antique arms? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7582804
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