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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7187826
02/18/21 12:36 PM
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The bee's are doing great in the almonds for about 3 weeks or so,than back to the coast then start neuking .Good to see most of the bee's doing well in the winter lands,for sure keep medicating for mites.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7187843
02/18/21 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
If I pull this winter off ,I will go all in on singles next year. I managed in singles this past summer season and like it more than doubles now.

BP My bees have not flown since October. Won't fly until around April 15. You guys should have a maple flow starting soon I would think. Be good times for a beekeeper.

Treat your hives or the mites will overpower your bees during winter, they either starve out or mites get them . The cold don't effect them.

In western Oregon the cold PLUS humidity can do them in. I have screen bottoms.


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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7187852
02/18/21 12:51 PM
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At least one of my failures was a starve out. A better bee keeper would have been on that, but I just assumed since I hadn't taken any honey and they were in two deeps that they should have had plenty. After the blackberry flow there isn't much forage for them. I planted a late buckwheat crop but there were lots of grapes at the same time and they seemed to prefer sucking sweet grape juice then working the bloom.


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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7187854
02/18/21 12:51 PM
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I stopped raising bees a few years back. First, I had an infestation of skunks. I caught 12 one year. There are a lot of potato and corn fields in my area. When they started spraying the fields near me my bees starting disappearing.


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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7187990
02/18/21 02:46 PM
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Not well, bad beekeeper here. But I would welcome any and all to this weekend's GBA Spring Conference. Links and schedule below. I'll be doing the Diseases of the Brood breakout session.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4056912457686078&id=100001020913934

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https://gba17.wildapricot.org/event-2710133

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: The Beav] #7188237
02/18/21 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
If I pull this winter off ,I will go all in on singles next year. I managed in singles this past summer season and like it more than doubles now.

BP My bees have not flown since October. Won't fly until around April 15. You guys should have a maple flow starting soon I would think. Be good times for a beekeeper.

Treat your hives or the mites will overpower your bees during winter, they either starve out or mites get them . The cold don't effect them.


My daughter lives In Delta Jct and she just killed her bees every year due to the extreme temps.


I live in the bush and didnt have any contact with other Alaskan beekeepers when I started. I had two hives wintering already but was asking about getting more bees ordered, and shipped out to me from a bee package supplier in Anchorage. I told him I wanted a package in case mine die. He said what ? you have bees still ? I said yes. He instructed me to go shake them out immediately before they fowl my equipment. I was shocked to say the least. He informed me that Alaskan winters were too long, too cold. Its normal wintering procedure in Alaska I come to find out.

Well pig headed as I am I was not about to be stupid enough to shake out $500. worth of bees and then turn around and buy them back again. Thats crazy, and a bit immoral to me.

Sure enough come spring both hives dead, bees stuck inside the comb had to get packages shipped out to me at great hassle and expense.

This time I tried a little harder and that winter one survived, the next winter both survived ! thats 100 % the next winter (was last winter) I didnt feed enough and my sugar brick was too small and lost all four hives. Not due to cold or damp. I didnt feed enough.

Now I have the four hives made from a two double queen packages last spring, and a better set up with a bigger sugar brick and more insulation I think I am good, but you never know. We will see.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7188254
02/18/21 05:36 PM
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Check out Ian Steppler's Canadian beekeeper youtube channel. He does controlled environment wintering in sheds. Interesting stuff to say the least. By controlling temp and airflow he can get bees through in great shape.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: The Beav] #7188311
02/18/21 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
If I pull this winter off ,I will go all in on singles next year. I managed in singles this past summer season and like it more than doubles now.

BP My bees have not flown since October. Won't fly until around April 15. You guys should have a maple flow starting soon I would think. Be good times for a beekeeper.

Treat your hives or the mites will overpower your bees during winter, they either starve out or mites get them . The cold don't effect them.


My daughter lives In Delta Jct and she just killed her bees every year due to the extreme temps.

Thereís a train of thought to do the same even here in Pa. Use only medium boxes, manage for the season, shake out bees into a few consolidated hives in the fall, and extract everything after last of brood is out. If you need to leave bees 80# of honey in two deeps every fall, and you could extract it....honey at $5 a pound...you net $400. Buy new packages in April ( this years price is $ 118 / 3# ). Iíve sat through two different talks on the subject, but havenít been able to get myself to do it.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: Bigbrownie] #7188353
02/18/21 06:34 PM
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I have been going to 8 frame boxes rather than 10, I have noticed that come spring , the bees hadn't been able to use the 2 outside frames. In cold weather they seem to go up and down rather than sideways.. I have moved the outside frames in against the cluster, to help some. Late in the winter. This year I put paper on top of brood chamber put a couple of holes in it and poured about 10 pound of sugar on it . added a 1 1/2 inch rim on that , to allow for sugar. Then inner cover with upper entrance. The bees were up working the sugar , last I looked. I am not able to lift the big 10 frames anymore. I was also planning to use 5 frame boxes , and stacking them . Had 1 colony had 2 deep boxes and 2 medium on top for honey they did real well. Was able to borrow some brood frames and start another nuc as well, from it. old243

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7188362
02/18/21 06:38 PM
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If you go to five frames many are overwintering nucs by shoving them side to side to share warmth.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: old243] #7188486
02/18/21 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by old243
I have been going to 8 frame boxes rather than 10, I have noticed that come spring , the bees hadn't been able to use the 2 outside frames. In cold weather they seem to go up and down rather than sideways.. I have moved the outside frames in against the cluster, to help some. Late in the winter. This year I put paper on top of brood chamber put a couple of holes in it and poured about 10 pound of sugar on it . added a 1 1/2 inch rim on that , to allow for sugar. Then inner cover with upper entrance. The bees were up working the sugar , last I looked. I am not able to lift the big 10 frames anymore. I was also planning to use 5 frame boxes , and stacking them . Had 1 colony had 2 deep boxes and 2 medium on top for honey they did real well. Was able to borrow some brood frames and start another nuc as well, from it. old243

Iíve had bees since 1974, but if I was starting over, Iíd go to 8 frame boxes. Bees go up, not out. And as Iím getting older, Iíd rather wrestle 8 framers than 10.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7188563
02/18/21 09:18 PM
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If the old jumbo 11 5/8 boxes were still available I'd go to a single jumbo and mediums. Then never move that bottom box.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584764
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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584848
05/16/22 09:20 AM
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Commercial bee keepers lost over 30 percent even with all their treatments and wintering down south....


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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584854
05/16/22 09:33 AM
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The drought here did a number on the over wintering bees here. Not enough young bees in the hive. Major problem with varroa destructor mites effecting hides overwintering.
50% losses
thread call up from 2 years ago
Gibb did you move your hives to your new home location last year

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584856
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Not to derail the thread, but why do some beekeepers put hives right next to the road so often? Every time I go by them, it's at least 3-5 dead bees splatter on the windshield and mirrors, That's got to add up a death toll pretty quick I would imagine? Not to mention, they're tough to get off the windshield after they've baked on crazy


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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584865
05/16/22 09:54 AM
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I went into winter with 7 hives, 2 alive in spring. I had done mite treatment , 4 times with oxilic acid late fall . Fed well, and added about 10 pound of sugar on top of each hive. Two appeared to die out early as there was still lots of honey, One was very high moisture in hive , think my fault. Have split my survivors. Purchased 3 new queens, up to 5 now. Put some swarm traps out. Apple blossoms are just starting. . Hopeing for the best, Interesting bugs, Just glad it is just a hobby. Some of the local beekeepers , lost a bunch. old243

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584870
05/16/22 10:01 AM
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pretty sure the one hive sent out a swarm and i missed catching it ( was taking my granddaughter to the doc)


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Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: DakotaBoy] #7584882
05/16/22 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DakotaBoy
Not to derail the thread, but why do some beekeepers put hives right next to the road so often? Every time I go by them, it's at least 3-5 dead bees splatter on the windshield and mirrors, That's got to add up a death toll pretty quick I would imagine? Not to mention, they're tough to get off the windshield after they've baked on crazy


I assume you're speaking of commercial outyards. If so I would think ease of access as those four way pallets are loaded by forklift.

Re: How's Your Bee's [Re: yukonjeff] #7584899
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Warrior got it with the ease access with a rear loaded fork lift on their trucks to move the hives.
Seasonal adjustments to follow the nectar flow.

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