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Birthing up front and personal #7586276
05/18/22 03:51 PM
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I was packing some orders this afternoon and looking out the window as I typically do. I have seen many local deer bed and browse through the brush and trees over the years just behind our shop. It is fairly thick and not easy to walk through normally without ducking and weaving thru the brush. I saw a deer once again back there.

I noticed something odd about how this deer was standing facing away from me. At first I couldn't tell what I was seeing clearly even though it wasn't more then 30' >35' away from the window where I was standing. I saw that deer squatting like she may be getting ready to pee. Then all of a sudden I saw movement and something dropped out of her and hit the ground out of my sight .

I thought to myself, that deer just dropped a fawn, as I watched a bit more, she had my attention. I had work to do and orders to pack, but this isn't something you see often. A minute or so later she dropped another fawn, then another. Triplets I said to myself. How lucky can a fella get sometimes.

I went back to the shop after getting our UPS orders handled to check on the doe and fawns. Took my camera and I got a few photos. Not very clear but you can make out a couple fawns. They are lying down close to mom she is still licking them. They were up and walking I would say in 20-30 mins. They were very wobbly and fell frequently.

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Local barn cat taking a nap on the warm hard top, a young buck came close to smell and investigate as to what it was. You can't make this stuff up.

Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586277
05/18/22 03:54 PM
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How long before they were on their feet?

Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586279
05/18/22 03:56 PM
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load up the shotgun and you can pop the coyotes when they come sniffing around after them.

very cool to see that


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586288
05/18/22 04:10 PM
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Not gonna see that just every day


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586290
05/18/22 04:22 PM
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That's great to see. Have seen many just born fawn's over the years on the farm but never seen one "drop".
What an amazing sight it must have been. And triplets at that wow


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586295
05/18/22 04:31 PM
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Vealison?


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586307
05/18/22 04:55 PM
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You are very fortunate to witness that, I wish I could have been there.


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586308
05/18/22 05:01 PM
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Cool

Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586314
05/18/22 05:10 PM
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Something I never seen

Out in Eastern Colorado some years back I saw two antelope does. One was all hunched up about to calve. About 2-300 yards away was a big coyote watching. I was in my semi and didnt have time to drive over the hill and sneak back to watch. I wanted to see if the second antelope was going to help mom protect jr. Got no idea if that coyote ate afterbirth or baby antelope or both for breakfast. He sure enough was waiting for a feast though.


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586348
05/18/22 06:06 PM
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Wonderful thing to witness and great pics Bob!!!! Thanks for sharing!

Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586451
05/18/22 08:48 PM
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Very cool, thanks for sharing that Bob


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586466
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That's great!


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586482
05/18/22 09:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing that story and pics. I just showed it to my 9 year old daughter, who was very impressed. That's not easy to do!

Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586500
05/18/22 09:44 PM
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I was almost afraid to open this thread and look. !

Last edited by Gary Benson; 05/18/22 09:45 PM.

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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586635
05/19/22 06:16 AM
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I got to witness an elk calf birth a few years ago. Got a radio call to go look into an elk standing about 20 yards off the road in obvious distress. Got to the place and there's 15 people trying to keep this elk in the field. Yelled on the loudspeaker for them all to move away from the elk.

When I finally got the people corralled I told them to sit there and watch. I told them all to get their cameras out, They were going to witness something that none of their friends ever did. About 10 minutes later you could see her start to push. By this time my boss had shown up. I think the whole process took about 2 minutes and she was cleaning the calf up. After about 10,000 licks the calf was clean to her satisfaction. She then walked off about 40 yards and laid down. I looked at my boss and said; "Collar and tag?" He was like yup. We got about 20 witnesses to the time of birth.

We walked out put a collar and ear tag on, and after a few pictures we walked out of the field. I think we only had contact with it for about 5 minutes. That cow was so exhausted she never moved from her spot until we were done. She then got up and walked over licked it about 10,000 more times and went back and laid down. I came back through about 2 hours later and did a collar check on it. She had moved the calf 1/4 mile up the road into some thick ferns.

The thing that amazed me, other than the birth itself, was from birth to her laying down was about 30 minutes. There was no blood or afterbirth anywhere around the calf. It even ate the dirt and grass around the calf.

It was later that day that I realized what I had witnessed. We were all debriefing at a local restaurant and kind of just went quiet. My boss asked if I was ok. I said "yeah, the enormity of what we witnessed today just hit me. I was so focused on the whole biological aspect I never took a minute to actually realize what I was seeing."


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586670
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Really special to witness!

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I went over early this morning to see if I could see the doe and newborn fawns out the window, however they weren't in view. It appears they have moved from that spot. I would think due to the odor that may have been left behind the old doe knew she should move the small herd away from that birthing spot.

Can' t beat the good instincts and experience that those older Does develop which help to protect her offspring. They are the ones helping to sustain our deer herd the most.

Like Elkaholic stated, it was a chance occurrence and the case of being in the right place at the right time. A special moment in my life no doubt to witness that event.

Daily routine never ceases to amaze me at times, and it often entertains and educates us all thru our lives without notice. Just have to pay attention and you just may be blessed, impressed or learn something without expecting it.

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05/19/22 08:26 AM
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You witnessed a rare site for sure! What a blessing

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Thanks for posting Bob.


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Re: Birthing up front and personal [Re: Bob Jameson] #7586786
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Saw this old girl this morning early morning in the back with some turkeys. She is about ready to drop it appears. I have been keeping an eye on her.

She gave birth to a fawn 6 years ago or so when she was young. She got attacked by some coyotes. She lost the fawn and they tore her up pretty good. She had a tear of hide hanging down her right side about 8 inches or so for the longest time. It was about and 1/1/2" wide piece as a guess in size.

It took a long time to heal up and there is still a healed rough hair area I can still see to this day behind her right front shoulder area. That was how I could identify her from other deer for the longest time.. She is shedding her winter hair now.

Then she got attacked again and got her right front leg broken just up from her hoof 6" or so. It would just dangle for the longest time but it eventually healed over many months. It had a near golf ball size area at the break site for quite some time. Now you can barely see it unless you look real hard. Animals are amazing in their healing capacity and ability to adapt to handicaps.

During this healing period and her limping due to the injury, she was shunned by the other local deer for the longest time. They wouldn't let her mingle or feed with them. They would rear up and attack her aggressively and lay their ears back to warn her to stay away.

Old gal has had a tough time of it. She never got bred or was receptive to breeding obviously until all these years later.

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