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Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz #7587369
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He is ahead of McCormick by 1,127 votes with 99% counted.

Thanks for the endorsement of an anti-gun RINO Trump!

I don't know how much Trump's endorsement hurt or helped him but...

Trump's endorsements never carried much weight with me. After this, they carry no weight. In fact, in the future, I may vote the opposite of Trump's recommendations! mad


Eh...wot?

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587375
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I guess, we will see what kind of public servant he turns out to be, if he beats the Democrat. I listened to him speechify about The 2nd and other controversial topics and he seemed OK. If he follows through on what he has been saying, you have little to fear. I also believe, he is the best chance to beat the Democrat opponent.


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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587384
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I believe that may be why Trump endorsed him, because he thinks he has the best chance to win. Or maybe because he is a non-politician like Trump was.

I know Oz talks a good conservative talk now, but a quick check of his background shows many instances of anti-gun positions and statements. We are getting rid of one RINO in Pat Toomey (the vacant senate seat), it really doesn't do us much good to replace one RINO with another.

I guess you could make the case that it's better than a democrat getting that seat...


Eh...wot?

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587389
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And people can learn and change their opinions as they get older. OZ is better than a dumbocrat.


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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587393
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I believe that may be why Trump endorsed him, because he thinks he has the best chance to win. Or maybe because he is a non-politician like Trump was.

I know Oz talks a good conservative talk now, but a quick check of his background shows many instances of anti-gun positions and statements. We are getting rid of one RINO in Pat Toomey (the vacant senate seat), it really doesn't do us much good to replace one RINO with another.

I guess you could make the case that it's better than a democrat getting that seat...

The same thing could be said of Trump, and he turned out to be only mediocre on the 2a. Once an anti-gunner, always an anti-gunner. I wouldn't trust Oz.

To be fair, I don't think being anti-2a makes one a RINO, since Republicans support gun control.

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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587413
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Guys, I fully understand being a single issue voter on 2A but we've got much bigger fish to fry here.

We've got to win this so called culture war or whatever it's called. If we lose that we lose it all and all 2A will mean then is that you get to die alone surrounded by a pile of hot brass.

So I'll take Oz at his word that he's had some sort of burning bush moment as long as he is willing the fight this culture war thing.


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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587422
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I'm pretty sure it's too early to hand the nomination to Oz. Trump encouraged him to claim victory; but a recount is all but inevitable.


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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587432
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Hopefully this won’t become a “Romney” thing for PA.

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587441
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Some one please refresh my memory . What makes Trump anti gun? Because he said no to bump stocks? Truly , why does anyone "need" a bump stock? With the left screaming for heads to roll and wanting to outlaw ANY AND all guns, don't you think it better to give up something that isn't necessary for a gun to fire? Not necessary to hunt with? ! ONLY purpose is to make the Rambo wannabes feel all warm and fuzzy inside.....If they want to "rapid fire" work on their trigger finger speed.....

Bad mouth Trump all you want to but don't get on here and cry about something he did , then turn around on the next thread and mouth about any and everything the guy that replaced him IS DOING !!!

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587442
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RE: the endorsement, what did you expect? Of course Trump was going to support a TV personality who doesn't give a flip about the 2A. Remember, Trump was a TV personality who didn't give a flip about the 2A. They're perfect for each other.

I was hoping the PA senate race wouldn't turn out this way. Too bad.

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587444
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Bad Trump Bad Trump


BOOM !!!
Nuff said

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: warrior] #7587446
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Originally Posted by warrior
Guys, I fully understand being a single issue voter on 2A but we've got much bigger fish to fry here.

We've got to win this so called culture war or whatever it's called. If we lose that we lose it all and all 2A will mean then is that you get to die alone surrounded by a pile of hot brass.

So I'll take Oz at his word that he's had some sort of burning bush moment as long as he is willing the fight this culture war thing.


If a politician does not understand the importance of the second amendment then, in my opinion, he’s not worth voting for. Without the second amendment, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights don’t mean squat. They are pretty much unenforceable by the American people.


Eh...wot?

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587449
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by warrior
Guys, I fully understand being a single issue voter on 2A but we've got much bigger fish to fry here.

We've got to win this so called culture war or whatever it's called. If we lose that we lose it all and all 2A will mean then is that you get to die alone surrounded by a pile of hot brass.

So I'll take Oz at his word that he's had some sort of burning bush moment as long as he is willing the fight this culture war thing.


If a politician does not understand the importance of the second amendment then, in my opinion, he’s not worth voting for. Without the second amendment, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights don’t mean squat. They are pretty much unenforceable by the American people.


I agree!

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Still waiting on "why" Trump is against the second amendment/

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Especially now in this current political climate where are liberals are using recent gun violence to promote their anti-gun agenda.


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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587455
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I agree 100 %. If the 2nd amendment is outdated how long will it take until the rest of the constitution is also outdated?

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587457
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Personally I believe President Trump has endorsed Dr. OZ for the reason that OZ is not a career politician.
Career politicians are only out for their self interests.
Trump is looking for outsiders with America First beliefs.
Career politicians sell their soul for power and money.
And look at the facts... It has been the career politicians have attempted to sell President Trump down the river.

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Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: Lugnut] #7587458
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Lugnut, I personally vote both sides of the isle because I can't bring myself to fully back either party 100%. Now for the Liberal part, I live in one of the most liberal States this Country has. The least amount of gun laws and the safest State to live in. SO no not all Liberal States are against gun laws. No permit needed to conceal or open carry. We need term limits for all elected official's.

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: jbyrd63] #7587461
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Some one please refresh my memory . What makes Trump anti gun? Because he said no to bump stocks? Truly , why does anyone "need" a bump stock? With the left screaming for heads to roll and wanting to outlaw ANY AND all guns, don't you think it better to give up something that isn't necessary for a gun to fire? Not necessary to hunt with? ! ONLY purpose is to make the Rambo wannabes feel all warm and fuzzy inside.....If they want to "rapid fire" work on their trigger finger speed.....

Bad mouth Trump all you want to but don't get on here and cry about something he did , then turn around on the next thread and mouth about any and everything the guy that replaced him IS DOING !!!


Sweet liberal argument. You only NEED a single shot I guess….

Re: Looks Like We're Getting RINO Oz [Re: jbyrd63] #7587462
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Still waiting on "why" Trump is against the second amendment/

Ok, I’ll bite.

In his 2000 book "The America We Deserve," the president said he supports a ban on assault weapons.

"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," Mr. Trump wrote at the time.

Before running for POTUS ( back when he was a Democrat ), Trump had some liberal positions. Now, you’ll say those are things said in the past. So are the things that are being said about Oz. If you give Trump a pass on his prior beliefs, why not Oz?

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