Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Let’s see how fast Biden goes to Texas ? Soon. He won't pass up an opportunity to pander.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Let’s see how fast Biden goes to Texas ? Soon. He won't pass up an opportunity to pander. he might want to take a "handful" of extra security with him -- or keep to the big cities.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Bottom line is that we no longer have a moral nation under God.....Personally, I believe this type of stuff is going to escalate. The loss of the nuclear family is one of the main issues today but there are many, many more.
Again, I pray for those effected by this terrible act. 100% on your second point.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Washington has no problem with someone else’s kids being killed. They’ve just lowered the age that it’s acceptable to reach their goal. If that wasn’t true they’d stop promoting hate.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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The failure to protect children in schools borders on criminal. The goal is to educate children but a dead child cannot learn anything, so protecting them is the first priority. It is so easy to establish access control. Double doors at the front entrance like every Lowes and Wamart has. Once all the kids are inside the inner set of front doors are locked and all other exterior doors are locked. If a person enters the outer front doors they are locked behind the person until the person is either let in or let back out, after establishing their purpose for the visit. So simple, so easy, so cheap. It wouldn't solve every issue but would have stopped Sandy Hook, Stoneman Douglass, and the attack today.
I once went to a Ky State Police station to get help for a flat tire on my trailer. I couldn't get in to see anyone because they had access control FOR THEIR PROTECTION. They did communicate via intercom and get me help but I wasn't getting in.
After Stoneman Douglass "A commission appointed by then-Governor Scott to investigate the shooting condemned the police inaction and urged school districts across the state to adopt greater measures of security." Every school across the country should have access control security measures in place. Instead it is obvious that nothing is being done. Parents need to go to school board meetings and demand action. If they don't get action they should replace the board members. Unless parents take action it is obvious once again that the schools will not, and more kids will die at the hands or murderers.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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I remember when I was a kid some nut bar shooting students from a tower somewhere in Texas. May God rest their immortal souls.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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It wouldn't solve every issue but would have stopped Sandy Hook, Stoneman Douglass, and the attack today.
Sandy Hook was locked. The perp shot himself into the school by shooting out wire mesh glass panels next to the doors. I've been inside Sandy Hook school a couple of years before the incident. I had a gig there for some ADC work. I was escorted the whole time I was there , mostly to see where the problem was located , not for fear of safety. Wire mesh embedded glass is good , same with locked doors , it slows down an assault a bit. What is really needed is an armed response which is what they have now , police officers in all of Newtown , CT schools.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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All the pre-programmed "sleepers" are going off to ratchet up the fear porn. Right on time to try to change the 2022 elections...
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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When I owned my roofing business I did work for several local school systems. They had the doors locked and they had intercoms that would allow you to talk to someone about the purpose of my visit. That all sounds good but as soon as I told them I was there to look at their roof problem and see the custodian, they let me in. They never verified if I was legit or not. Walk right in and wait for the custodian. But if I was a nut job their security would have done them no good.
Prayers for the families.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Let’s see how fast Biden goes to Texas ? As soon as they pre pick the audience, set the stage, line up the cast, get cameras in place....I hated to type that, not sure I'm that far off anymore. So sad.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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Another reason to home school kids these days. I'm with Salem and EdP, The schools should have instituted much better protocol, but most small town schools tend to think, "it won't happen here". The safety protocols need to be mandated by the state, and followed to the letter! Something that everyone should be able to agree upon.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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I hope our nation can stop this type of behavior before our 2A rights are taken away. We are getting nails in our coffins every month, it seems. I do not have a solution, but I believe the problem comes to school from the home.
Glad my kids are grown. Glad I am too. I went to the same public school for 12 years as a kid in the 50s and 60s. This type of behavior wasn't even dreamed of. We didn't have gangs and rarely had a fistfight. I never once took my knife out of my pocket in anger or my shotgun or .22 rifle out of the trunk of my car. Never in my 27 years in the military did I have the desire to shoot someone in anger, though we were trained to do just that.
Why are our youth so different 60 years later? Is it drugs and/or video games? Parents, or lack of parents? As a child after WWII, we all hated the Japanese and Germans, but I had never seen or met one in my little town. They were no different than cowboys or Indians. Didn't know any of them either, but I grew up with a cap gun, a BB gun, then rifles and shotguns. Heck, we ate what we shot.
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting.
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People have too much hate. You can see it everywhere on social media. Someone posts something that someone doesnt agree with the name calling starts. nobody has any guts today-world is full of snowflakes that get triggered at the drop of a hat.. it is a symptom of the ME ME ME generation thought process.
Just watch the nutbar snowflakes that get triggered ove this post.
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Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed. Staff is always there and all over the school. Armed staff would be a huge deterrent to the coward killers. The cowards pick on the defenseless. If they knew there are armed staff eager to shoot them right between the eyes they won’t go there. I’d take my chances with a jury of my peers if it came to that.
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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