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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: drasselt] #7590463
05/24/22 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by SJA
Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed.

Staff is always there and all over the school. Armed staff would be a huge deterrent to the coward killers. The cowards pick on the defenseless. If they knew there are armed staff eager to shoot them right between the eyes they wont go there. Id take my chances with a jury of my peers if it came to that.


You may want to rethink being tried by a jury of "your peers" in today's world.


"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: SJA] #7590464
05/24/22 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SJA
Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed.

Better to be judged by12
Than carried by 6

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590465
05/24/22 07:52 PM
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Refer to my last post.


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: SJA] #7590467
05/24/22 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SJA
Refer to my last post.

Your opinion means nothing when people are in harm's way.
Maybe you should grow a pair.

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590468
05/24/22 07:57 PM
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I'm sure you don't understand all you think you know . . . have a good evening :-)


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590469
05/24/22 08:00 PM
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Just changed it to 18 children and 1 adult

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590472
05/24/22 08:06 PM
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Im sure drasselt knows his peers better than you do SJA.


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590473
05/24/22 08:07 PM
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Many young adults have lost hope in the system. They don't see things ever getting better so they just want the suffering to end.

Sad day.

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590475
05/24/22 08:09 PM
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It's good to hear that there are schools that took action and have safety protocals. Parents need to make sure their children's schools are included in those that have.

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590476
05/24/22 08:10 PM
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If you go and look at what is trending on Twitter right now, the problem with these kids today becomes evident. Within moments after the shooting broke the news, these are some of the things that are trending: Shut up. Go to H.... Screw you. Screw your thoughts and prayers. Jesus Christ (and not in a good way), YOUR God to name a few. These kids parents don't know how to react to anything bad without resulting to violence and hatred (although I sure hate to agree with Boco, lol). If the adults have zero coping skills, how can their kids be expected to? Adults used to raise children. Now children raise themselves, and far too often have to also babysit their parents. Like this kid. Killed his grandmother. Where's Mom and Dad?


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: wetdog] #7590478
05/24/22 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SJA
Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed.


Maybe I am misunderstanding you but it sure sounds like you're saying someone should refrain from stopping a school shooter from killing little kids because they could be charged?


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: wetdog] #7590481
05/24/22 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by SJA
Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed.

Better to be judged by12
Than carried by 6

Why. If your being carried by 6, you won't even know it.

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590483
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"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police. and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." LtCol Jeff Cooper

when the news is shooter stopped by armed citizen or off duty officer or something like that before they hardly even get started these events get fewer

when the news is one event after another and no one is stopping them the events get greater

when the news makes sure not to report about armed citizens or police stopping the shooter quickly beyond that 24 hour news cycle but spends weeks covering events not stopped by a citizen or police , well it is just disgusting.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7590484
05/24/22 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by SJA
Because a schools' "staff" is "trained" and have a CDW permit, that is a slippery slope. First, unless AUTHORIZED as a LEO, they are nothing more than a civilian allowed to carry. The ramifications can be devastating. We see LEOs being charged every day for doing, or omitting to do, what THEY were TRAINED to do. It's that crisis scenario hesitation that can get a person injured or killed.


Maybe I am misunderstanding you but it sure sounds like you're saying someone should refrain from stopping a school shooter from killing little kids because they could be charged?


All I inferred was to think before you act or react and be WILLING and READY to ACCEPT any consequences for your actions . . . nothing more.


"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590485
05/24/22 08:26 PM
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I would hope most people wouldn't have to think more than a split second before doing the right thing. But with this world we live in....


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590504
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Boco, I agree 100% with you. Hatred is out of control and so unnecessary. People no longer simply disagree, they now hate people with another opinions. This is a recent problem, and I hate to say it, but I think the
Trump defeat threw fuel on the fire.

We never before had a national hate policy, but we seem to now. Seems that everything that goes wrong is a political mistake. Supply and demand are no longer an excuse for pricing.

Last edited by charles; 05/24/22 08:49 PM.
Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590506
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The schmoe blaming guns again and again ......


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Boco] #7590510
05/24/22 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
People have too much hate.
You can see it everywhere on social media.
Someone posts something that someone doesnt agree with the name calling starts.
nobody has any guts today-world is full of snowflakes that get triggered at the drop of a hat..
it is a symptom of the ME ME ME generation thought process.

Just watch the nutbar snowflakes that get triggered ove this post.


Boco is right. You see it on this site. You see it on this thread.

Protecting the 2A is my number one issue. I am tired of the nuts, idiots and extremists in this country ruining it for the rest of us.


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Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Blaine County] #7590512
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Boco
People have too much hate.
You can see it everywhere on social media.
Someone posts something that someone doesnt agree with the name calling starts.
nobody has any guts today-world is full of snowflakes that get triggered at the drop of a hat..
it is a symptom of the ME ME ME generation thought process.

Just watch the nutbar snowflakes that get triggered ove this post.


Boco is right. You see it on this site. You see it on this thread.

The 2A is my number one issue. I am tired of the nuts, idiots and extremists in this country ruining it for the rest of us.

Isn't "nutbar snowflakes" name calling? whistle

Re: 14 dead @ school shooting. [Re: Marty] #7590513
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It's not hateful for me to call a nut a nut.


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