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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: danny clifton] #7592895
05/27/22 08:46 PM
05/27/22 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Like I said, My plan for our school is drive my pickup through the double front doors. Any armed parents will be welcome to jump in the bed. Everything I read about what happened in Uvalde is just disgusting.


I call shotgun.

As much as I want to go home to my family every day, being there and doing nothing would be worse than dying.


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.... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad
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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7592897
05/27/22 08:46 PM
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Its aint about training. Its about having a set. A many do not.

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: Jerry Jr.] #7592898
05/27/22 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Like I said, My plan for our school is drive my pickup through the double front doors. Any armed parents will be welcome to jump in the bed. Everything I read about what happened in Uvalde is just disgusting.


I call shotgun.

As much as I want to go home to my family every day, being there and doing nothing would be worse than dying.

Amen -- I'll take a seat in the back -- do you have a canopy? -- I really don't like broken glass. grin

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7592912
05/27/22 09:08 PM
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When did the guy shoot the kids? At the beginning? At the end? Both?

Thought I heard that law enforcement may have sprayed a hundred rounds or so?

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593014
05/27/22 11:09 PM
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I read that they lost 18 minutes of the dispatch tape. It is starting to remind me of the Epstein case.


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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: Jerry Jr.] #7593026
05/27/22 11:31 PM
05/27/22 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Jr.
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Like I said, My plan for our school is drive my pickup through the double front doors. Any armed parents will be welcome to jump in the bed. Everything I read about what happened in Uvalde is just disgusting.


I call shotgun.

As much as I want to go home to my family every day, being there and doing nothing would be worse than dying.

Nailed it. Both of you. I'll go in the bed of the truck , broken glass or not.


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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593030
05/27/22 11:33 PM
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I will join and deal with the cops trying to stop ya'll.

smile



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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: Marty] #7593031
05/27/22 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
I will join and deal with the cops trying to stop ya'll.

smile

What were they thinking?

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593033
05/27/22 11:38 PM
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Tyrannical thoughts...cop's for the most part no longer protect and serve...it is another bad situation we find ourselves in. Never talk to police who start an interaction with you and always video every interaction. 5th amendment, no obligation to answer any questions.



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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593036
05/27/22 11:44 PM
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Take the personal feuds to PM.


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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: Marty] #7593039
05/27/22 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Tyrannical thoughts...cop's for the most part no longer protect and serve...it is another bad situation we find ourselves in. Never talk to police who start an interaction with you and always video every interaction. 5th amendment, no obligation to answer any questions.


Can you imagine the outcry had they shot a parent trying to reach their kid? I'm not anti-cop but it's not hard to see where they pick the wrong side.

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593046
05/28/22 12:01 AM
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They were ready to start tazing the parents....



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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: Marty] #7593050
05/28/22 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
They were ready to start tazing the parents....

I see a YUGE lawsuit there if any of those parents lost a child.


Poor kids , never had a chance.


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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593053
05/28/22 12:18 AM
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I understand that they are taught and mandated to "control " the situation -- too bad they are not taught to "solve " the situation. I am pro-cop -- even played one back in the 80's -- could see the decline then. There are some very good ones out there and some that want to collect a paycheck and tow the company line -- much like any other profession. Hats off to all of those who are true cops you have my utmost respect -- the rest I lump in with lawyers and politicians.

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593064
05/28/22 12:58 AM
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Uvalde is lower income and poorer than many areas of Texas, which could mean they may not have the economic resources to have the proper tactical equipment, the training or the money to hire more experienced or higher level security forces. We need to wait to see who and if someone locally stalled the swat team. Standing in a hallway with over a dozen fellow armed security personell whiile unarmed children are being shot does not say much for security or being armed at least in this city or situation. One would hope that it was just poor communication or mix ups and not deliberate stalling because there was RISK involved.

Bryce

Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593073
05/28/22 01:11 AM
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the pd budget there is over 4 million.



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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593076
05/28/22 01:16 AM
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DWC…. bbllwi ….I think you are correct with your statement. It is the 10 ton elephant in the room that every one is afraid to ask or talk about. My Neigbor is a retired policeman he told me that a lot of new policemen and police chiefs really don’t understand on what they are signing up for when they join a police force and or a fire force. Its a very very dangerous job and with defund the police and making law enforcement the bad guy every time they do have to shoot someone I am sure it weighs on the individual policemen’s mind when they have to make a decision to knock down a door knowing you will be facing some one pointing a gun at your head. MD

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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593092
05/28/22 05:14 AM
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Let's not be distracted from the entire tragedy as a whole. We need absolute 100% truth of every component of this shooting. Including who the suspect is, who or how he got guns. Are any others involved we don't know about? How police handled the scene is one big part, let's not let that cloud anything hiding in the background of this, We need every piece of the puzzle. Media is not reliable.


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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7593114
05/28/22 06:50 AM
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The more I learn about this, the sicker it makes me. If a man won't do what is needed to protect children he should turn in his badge


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Re: the time line is coming out now [Re: Leftlane] #7593121
05/28/22 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
The more I learn about this, the sicker it makes me. If a man won't do what is needed to protect children he should turn in his badge

Many would give their own life to protect a child, myself included. May they speak kindly of me after I'm gone. If not, the one that matters knows my heart.


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