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Gun tax for mental health care #7597040
06/02/22 11:06 PM
06/02/22 11:06 PM
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Green Bay, Wisconsin
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85 years ago sportsmen came together and the Pittman-Robertson Act was passed that added an 11% tax on guns, ammo and archery equipment to be set aside for conservation. I think most or all of us would agree we're ok with paying a few extra bucks for a gun or box of shells knowing that money is going towards a worthy cause.

I also think a lot of us would agree there's a mental health crisis in America that's to blame for the increase in mass shootings lately.

Would you support an added tax on firearms and ammo, like the P-R Act, to be set aside for mental health help? I know I don't want to pay any more for guns and ammo than I already am, but I think it would be good PR for gun owners.

What do ya think?

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597044
06/02/22 11:09 PM
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NO

If anything that mental health tax should be on social media and the main stream media.


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597048
06/02/22 11:13 PM
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sure, use the funds first off to give joe a cognitive ability test or no deal.


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597049
06/02/22 11:13 PM
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And would you trust the present government to use that money for what we think it’s for ?

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597057
06/02/22 11:23 PM
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No , the government is pushing and supporting the mental health decline. Trans gender grooming kids and on and on. Let the dems that caused the problem pay for it.

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: Marty] #7597058
06/02/22 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
sure, use the funds first off to give joe a cognitive ability test or no deal.


Right on. Let's start at the top. I couldn't agree more.

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597062
06/02/22 11:24 PM
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NO! It would become a slush fund for the liberal's agenda. Think about all the doors that could open adding a tax on the honest law-abiding people for the actions of a relatively few mental defective monsters. In almost every case the shooter was known by their actions to the family and authorities long before the shootings happen, yet nothing was done to make society safe from these killers. Get the families, law enforcement and court systems to recognize the danger these people pose to society and become proactive instead of reactive in stopping the threat.

As far as good PR for gun owners, I seriously doubt that would change anyone's outlook on gun owners.

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597067
06/02/22 11:31 PM
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No.... UNLESS that money was used ONLY for the rebuilding of insane asylums AFTER legislation was passed allowing for concerned family members to commit someone against their will.

The reason why I say that?

Because I DO believe it's a mental health issue causing all this, BUT I believe the MAIN issue is overmedication of people.

I WON'T have my tax dollars going towards "diagnosing" and medicating a perfectly sane person. And don't even try to tell me that doesn't happen because it does all day every day.

Genuine mental illness is no doubt part of the problem. But I think a bigger part is mental illness CAUSED by medication


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: VaBeagler] #7597068
06/02/22 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VaBeagler
Originally Posted by Marty
sure, use the funds first off to give joe a cognitive ability test or no deal.


Right on. Let's start at the top. I couldn't agree more.



Yup!


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597069
06/02/22 11:32 PM
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NO, I would not support your idea.

If this administration has the ability to give out free phones and money to illegal aliens as well as wanting to cancel student loan debts, then the government can come up with funding for more mental health services.


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597086
06/03/22 12:07 AM
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no , because your idea of mental health help and theirs is so different , it is just going to end up another tax on guns to fund waste.

no new taxes

the money collected will only be used as a weapon against you , I prefer not to pay my abusers further enabling them to abuse me.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 06/03/22 12:13 AM.

America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597093
06/03/22 12:45 AM
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No. In this climate you might as well place your head squarely in the guillotine. "Gun owners admit they are the problem" will be the national headline.

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597101
06/03/22 02:07 AM
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I would support ending foreign aid to fund it.


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597102
06/03/22 02:14 AM
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I would support a mental health tax on things like alcohol, gambling, video games, drugs, and other things that cause people to lose their mind.


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597103
06/03/22 02:17 AM
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NO!


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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597156
06/03/22 07:17 AM
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Never, family values have been lost in America. More church, role models, and respect is what this country needs. I'd reinstate the draft once again to teach the youth some respect for our country and one another.

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597161
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Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: yotetrapper30] #7597195
06/03/22 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
No.... UNLESS that money was used ONLY for the rebuilding of insane asylums AFTER legislation was passed allowing for concerned family members to commit someone against their will.

The reason why I say that?

Because I DO believe it's a mental health issue causing all this, BUT I believe the MAIN issue is overmedication of people.

I WON'T have my tax dollars going towards "diagnosing" and medicating a perfectly sane person. And don't even try to tell me that doesn't happen because it does all day every day.

Genuine mental illness is no doubt part of the problem. But I think a bigger part is mental illness CAUSED by medication

You are completely correct when you say the main mental health issue is over medication. There are many root causes for why some people develop problems with mental illness .But once you have it ,it is not something you just get over by someone telling you to cheer up it can.t be that bad The medical profession /business is concerned about their profit margin I t does not interest them in long term care It serves them better to just give them more pills and hope the patients just stay numb And when those that do not stay numb and do something terrible thr doctors in charge not wanting to take any responsibly for not helping say here give this person more of these The more the government gets involved the more misguided the treatment of the patient gets .Mental illness does not get cured by a one size fits all plan of action .It must be dealt with on a one to one basis .

Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: warrior] #7597199
06/03/22 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
NO

If anything that mental health tax should be on social media and the main stream media.



And violent video games!


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Gun tax for mental health care [Re: tlguy] #7597200
06/03/22 08:17 AM
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