Re: Republicans and Democrats
[Re: Trapper7]
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06/08/22 12:21 PM
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I feel a lot of what Hal Lindsay has preached for years is coming to fruition. We are in the church age currently, but it will come to an end. There will be rumors of wars and wars. There is no evidence that America will be a player in the final days. We are being fast tracked into our demise with this administration. We have been destroying our selves from within administrations prior to this one. But, this leadership has put things into passing gear.
Common sense and morality are dying. Socialism is the primary goal. America is in trouble and the future doesn't look too good.
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/09/22 05:59 AM
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Mark June
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Amspoker's post last night which included Proverbs 14:34 was timely. My post was in regard to people placing faith in R's and D's, which while important and certainly an imbedded portion of our Republic, are not the underpinnings of any culture. Ours included. If you believe in God, that is. If you don't believe in the God of Creation, then by all means place all your hope, all your trust, and all that you have in the people you think will lead you to whatever/wherever you want to go.
I'm a conservative politically. I'll type that on an online thread. But I don't expect any human, as hard as they may try, to lead me and my family. Because humans are sinners and sinners mess up. Every day. It's called life and the fact that any politician has an R or a D after their name has become the main focal point in our land and this mentality is devouring us piece by piece. As we place hope in either the R's or the D's, and I believe there are fundamental differences between political parties, as a nation we stand little chance of long term survival if the current trend of ALL people continue to walk further away from the righteousness that the Wisdom Book of Proverbs lays out in 14:34.
Why is that? Well, let's read along for a moment of how things really are and how all nations - who have ever been - have faired when they decided to "go it alone."
Proverbs 14:34 says, “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.” Righteousness here doesn't refer to an individual’s right standing with God but to a nation that adheres to God’s righteous standards as found in His moral law. It's not democrats or republicans who exalt a nation but righteousness.
The righteous ethical standards this passage is referring to is based upon God’s moral law. 1 Timothy 1:8-11 shows the purpose of the law in civil government:
But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
Scripture tells us that the Law was given to be a standard for righteousness. Paul writes, that the law can't save anyone, but it is to used as the righteous standard for the church and for a civil society. Same as our forefathers wrote about. Often.
We also realize one other VERY important point which is that without the righteousness standards of the law permeating society, it is harder to get people saved because there is a lack of the knowledge of sin. Romans 7:7 shows that the law brings the knowledge of sin.
As a post-Christian nation, and there is no debate among scholars about that anymore, people lack the basic knowledge of true righteousness and the conviction of sin... so society follows their own righteousness standards, which is called self-righteousness.
It's in plain sight. The shooter outside Justice Cavanaugh's residence told authorities he was searching for "identity... a purpose for his life." I've written on this before here on TMan. Our hearts as created humans seeks to love and be loved and as relational beings, created in God's image, we seek identity.
My-o-my how every day now brings some news story about yet another 21st century American proclaiming their wonderful zany, warped identity. It'd be funnier if the perverted and abhorrent identities weren't rotting the core of people's lives and the fabric of our nation, which has always been a beacon for individual liberty.
R's and D's stand no chance against the onslaught of unrighteousness our nation now seeks, embraces, and rallies for with pretty T-shirts and poster boards. The people are us and we elect our leaders. Each decade brings about a faster acceleration of secular ideas tethered to unrighteousness, so we're not surprised at the civil society we're now witnessing. May God help us to raise up righteous leaders and I don't care one bit what political party they call themselves as long as they cast their gaze upward first and foremost. Cause the current plan can't work long term. It never has for any other nation and America will be no exception in God's Creation - Redemption - Restoration Plan. So it is written. And the Book has never been wrong before....
Blessings, Mark
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/09/22 06:19 AM
06/09/22 06:19 AM
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Ahhh America, and it's political pendulem. What used to be a slight swing left to right has now become earthquake like. Far far left will soon be replaced with far far right. Mark, we're running the Morbark tub grinder this morning, I sometimes wish I could toss some problems in it, instead of slabwood! 2 hours, 300 gallons of fuel for grinder and feeder machines....Another fine morning, a bit wet makes for no dust! Have a great day all!! Morbark makes everything look the same when it falls off the end of conveyor!
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you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/09/22 06:33 AM
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Given the sin nature of man, none of what's going on in the U.S. should surprise anyone. Mark is right, don't put your faith in politicians, preachers, or any man, because at some point they will fail you.
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/09/22 10:46 AM
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Hard to find anything to cheer about considering the direction the country is taking.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/09/22 11:28 AM
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8pm tonight will be interesting. You must be referring to the kangaroo court that will be doing their best to stop Trump from running in 2024.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/09/22 01:08 PM
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ABC owns or is owned by Disney so I guess the show tonight will be a Disney production. Fitting since Disney is known for producing make believe films.
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/10/22 06:54 AM
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There's joy in the house Tom! But it's sure not in watching politicians, elected to serve their constituents, serve themselves. Joy in my house comes from knowing FULL WELL Who has this all this precisely where He wants it. When you realize where Truth comes from, you can rest easier watching the banana republic display and every D and more-and-more R's these days. I have faith in God and I still have faith in my country which is changing according to what vocal people say they need or want. My generation taught that love, sex, and rock and roll was the answer to finding happiness in life. To that, here 6 decades into my life, I have a question though. If the hippie generation teachings were so grand, and it was ushered in with songs, TV, and bill boards everywhere.... why are so many people 60 years later so dang crabby? Maybe love the one you're with and sex, sex, baby and songs that glorified immorality didn't deliver all that they promised to the people who listened? Oh, but they DID deliver. All they promised. And the hippie generation who listened and lived life according to the love, sex, and rock and roll is now in FULL control of this country and running this show. They are in full control in WDC. And they are ALL a crabby, self-centered spectacle of humanity... which I can't watch in good conscience. It's embarrassing what/who they profess to be. Lies. Liers. Lieing. So, here we are. Families spilt apart from the love the one you're with teachings. A sexualized nation at every level, with more "rights' given to sexual preferences that life itself. And a nation built upon 6 solid decades of "I don't care what other people do," which has only drifted us far, far, far away from a moral shore. And drugs, idolized in song and media, are killing our people at a rate never seen before. The plan was never a good one which these peace-nicks chased after. Good thing God's in control. And not them. So there is joy in the house! Blessings, Mark
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Re: Republicans and Democrats
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06/10/22 07:35 AM
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Mark, I read an article where the Pope was making a plea for world peace. Is he the only one that hasn’t read the book? lol
-Goofy-
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