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Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? #7601787
06/09/22 10:42 PM 06/09/22 10:42 PM
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Just read something that there might be a serious push to hybridize the two species to get the best from both.
Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7601790
06/09/22 10:48 PM 06/09/22 10:48 PM
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Long been done and not just in the beefalo breed. Matter of fact one study, in Arizona iirc, found "wild" bison with cow DNA.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7601793
06/09/22 10:52 PM 06/09/22 10:52 PM
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I can see it in farm bison raised for meat. Wont ever fly for wild herds, though I think there is some evidence that at least one wild herd has some cattle DNA.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7601811
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I believe beefalo were back bred from crossbreeds and pure to be 5/8 beef and 3/8 bison.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7601817
06/09/22 11:28 PM 06/09/22 11:28 PM
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Most bison herds are not pure

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7601828
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Yup. Nothing new. Beefalo been around awhile now.
Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Boone Liane] #7601840
06/10/22 12:23 AM 06/10/22 12:23 AM
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Was a big push in our area 25-30 years ago. Don't hear much about it now.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: 330-Trapper] #7602149
06/10/22 01:08 PM 06/10/22 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Most bison herds are not pure



And unless they have been very well managed for a few decades they have a big brucellosis problem.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602150
06/10/22 01:09 PM 06/10/22 01:09 PM
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Like others are saying the concept has been around for a long time but never seems to have taken much of a market share at all.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: 330-Trapper] #7602158
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Most bison herds are not pure


I've talked to a person who used to work for Ted Turner's big bison operation in the sandhills of Nebraska. Said they did a lot of genetic testing trying to find a genuine bison in the herd at that branch. Every buffalo at that branch division had some cow DNA.
Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #7602163
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Most bison herds are not pure


I've talked to a person who used to work for Ted Turner's big bison operation in the sandhills of Nebraska. Said they did a lot of genetic testing trying to find a genuine bison in the herd at that branch. Every buffalo at that branch division had some cow DNA.


Last study I saw didnt show any cattle genetics in the Tetons and Yellowstone populations

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602168
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Most and maybe all wolves have domestic dog DNA too. The color black in wolves came from dogs. Many people like to pretend things are distinct species, that are really just subspecies or breeds.

There is a huge variation in size and other physical characteristics like coat, color, head shape, horn development, length and girth in the "bison" around here.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602196
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I recall that Safeway carried hybrid buffalo in their markets in the late 70s. Think it was expensive also.
Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602202
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I read way back probly 40 yrs ago that the beefalo were very resistant to cold weather sickness but obviously they didn't take off to be popular.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: 330-Trapper] #7602214
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Most bison herds are not pure

Do we owe them reparations?

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602307
06/10/22 05:58 PM 06/10/22 05:58 PM
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There were a little over 60 million bison in America, compared to a little over 30 million head of cattle now, yet we are somehow supposed to believe that bovine methane expulsions are only a problem now.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602342
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Angus supremacy is definitely a problem.

Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Gary Benson] #7602373
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There were cattle artificial insemination businesses that carried Beefalo semen for a few decades and that was advertised quite a bit early on. I have not seen any ads or promos for years now.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Gary Benson] #7602452
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Angus supremacy is definitely a problem.

I'm not falling for this nonsense.

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Re: Thoughts on Bison and Cattle Hybrid? [Re: Pike River] #7602461
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If u get in early on in the new fad there's probably money to be made selling to the late comers. Just get in fast and out faster.
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