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Cop charged with murder #7602428
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Did anybody watch the video of a cop pulling Patrick Lyoya over? He got out of his car, disobeyed orders to get back in the car, took off running, wrestled the cop for his taser, and suffered the consequences. Now he's a hero and the cop is charged with murder! This world is backwards. Maybe somebody who knows how to post videos can post it on this thread. The dead man has no one to blame but himself. Another fact about this story that has nothing to do with anything is the cop is white and the dead man is black. I hope the jury can see straight and the cop is able to live a good and free life.


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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602436
06/10/22 09:54 PM
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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602437
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Hope springs eternal ------ however reality has a different view. Haven't heard about it or seen the video -- just hope that justice is done whatever the outcome is.

Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602441
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Apparently ther is a cell phone video the body can was turned off during the struggle. I have not watched it but read a friends summary.

Guy gets out of vehical cop and him struggling tazer is in effective, bad guy looks like he can easily over power cop, gets tazer away, cop gains the guys back for a second during the struggle take the opportunity and shoots him in the back of the head before the guy can get the better of him with was very likely to happen fast.

I think n it was a good shoot but in today's world he is screwed.

Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602443
06/10/22 10:04 PM
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Tis looting season.

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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602454
06/10/22 10:13 PM
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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602457
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Why ANYONE would be a cop in a liberal craphole state is beyond me. You save your life you go to prison.

Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602459
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Here's the initial contact and aftermath.



The lawfully administered gunshot is probably to much for this site. It's on Youtube. To the untrained it looks bad, but it is exactly what every officer is trained to do if a criminal gets a hold of your tazer or pepper spray in police academies.

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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602467
06/10/22 10:31 PM
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counting on a taser to fill the gap of actual hand to hand skills is not a good thing..cops should have to attend 1-2 bjj classes a week mandatory. This cop has no hand to hand skills. The black guy appears to be under the influence...cops like this should just wait for 2 or three more officers to back them up..sad situation.



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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Marty] #7602484
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Originally Posted by Marty
counting on a taser to fill the gap of actual hand to hand skills is not a good thing..cops should have to attend 1-2 bjj classes a week mandatory. This cop has no hand to hand skills. The black guy appears to be under the influence...cops like this should just wait for 2 or three more officers to back them up..sad situation.


Cops should have to meet strict physical standards too. Little, effeminate men can't handle most physical police work.

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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602491
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neither can most women....I stopped about a month ago and helped a female deputy that was holding a man off with a taser on the side of the road....pitiful.



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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602500
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there was a warrant for Patrick Lyoya for sencond offence domestic violance and other things the officer had no choice but to make the arrest.

yes I have seen the video from the cell phone and the body cam that was released I don't think either show a cop that wasn't desperate to not be seriously hurt or killed by Lyoya

he was pulled over for a plate issue , he was driving on a revoked license, he acted very off , he had a warrant , he ran , then he fought

the only actual out for Lyoya given the circumstance was to harm or kill the officer in such a way that he couldn't pursue Lyoya and to do it before the called for backup got there, so knowing that is the only viable out for Lyoya what is the officer supposed to think Lyoya is trying to do?

the standard is , given the knowledge at the time , would a reasonable person have sufficient reason to fear death or great bodily harm . can you really come to another answer. there is no point in wrestling for the taser just because it's fun. the goal is either disable the officer or illogical.

this week people are praising a cop shooting an unarmed guy , why , because he was trying to get into a school , was acting very strange and went after the cops gun.


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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Marty
counting on a taser to fill the gap of actual hand to hand skills is not a good thing..cops should have to attend 1-2 bjj classes a week mandatory. This cop has no hand to hand skills. The black guy appears to be under the influence...cops like this should just wait for 2 or three more officers to back them up..sad situation.


Cops should have to meet strict physical standards too. Little, effeminate men can't handle most physical police work.

Keith


they probably should wait for backup to arrive but the sad fact is , backup for them is often a long way off. maybe not in this case , but officers and deputies around here may be 20-30 minutes from the next officer. so they do have to try and handle a lot alone.

as to physical requirements , man it is hard enough to hire a qualified candidate

as for tools they got left with pepper spray , a taser and a gun no billy clubs , batons , or knight sticks any more , nothing that functions as a club. anything that functions as a club got misused at some point by a bad apple and now has been taken away as a tool. with no other tools is it any surprise they have to go to the gun more often.


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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602512
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Looks like a good shoot to me.

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Because of that piece of human excrement George Floyd, cops cant touch someone around their head or neck area anymore. When that cop had the top, regardless of what the armchair quarterback tough guys on this site say about his size or strength, he shouldve been raining blows and went straight into rear naked choke. But, we are a weak nation now and while we watch these these in the ufc for entertainment we have forbidden any officer from touching a crapbag around his neck.

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I hear that close to 50% of applicants for the local so cannot pass the background check to posses a firearm..



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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602515
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The cops should absolutely be able to use a chokehold and if one is loosing the fight then that officer should use the choke regardless of policy. I think any reasonable person would agree with that.



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That cop shouldve immediately started with some hammer fists on that guys head when he tackled him. But cops, especially in liberal states, fear the black man. That cop shot him because his mind went blank on WHO he was shooting, he just wanted to live.

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Sounds alot like George Floyd.


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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7602542
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MSM making it into a totally different situation .I think some people think it's all fun and games .Every time the so called victim is resisting arrest and a threat to the officers life .
If he wasn't doing something illegal , he had no reason to run !


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