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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7603149
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Should a just shot him in the arse with birdshot.-Take some of the fight out of him-everybody lives everybody goes home.


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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7603152
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The perp knew he had the warrant hence his fighting the cop. The cop never got his ID. The perp knew he was going to jail so he fought with the cop. The cop only knew the guy had bad plates and was not complying then fought with him.

Cops don't have a crystal ball to know who the bad guys are or what they are thinking or running from ahead of time . They just have to react to people's actions and try to not end up hurt or dead when they come across someone like this.

Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7603160
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You wind up not hurt or dead by not chasing and tackling every traffic violation. Thats all it was, up untill the guy ran and the cop tackled him, just sayin. Then it got real.

Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Diggerman] #7603166
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
You wind up not hurt or dead by not chasing and tackling every traffic violation. Thats all it was, up untill the guy ran and the cop tackled him, just sayin. Then it got real.



Did you watch the videos ? One time you act like you just read what peope said happend then you asct like you watched it.

I guess you are OK with people not complying with police orders. Starting right off get back in the car he did not. An did not follow a single one after.

Once again I see another example of why this country is in the shape that it is in.

Criminal doede not comply with lawful orders fights cop ends up dead but it's the cops fault the guy did not follow orders and fought with him.

Bet you blame th gun for mass shootings also.

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You are kinda special, aint ya. Yes I am very ok with questioning authority. You pull me over, you had better be able and willing to articulate why and what for.
I have no clue what you mean with your last sentence.

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From what I saw on the video .The perp , got out of his car , the officer told him to get back in the car .IMHO That way he had more control over the situation .The officer informed the perp of why he was stopped .The perp then tells his buddy to get his license , why he never provided his license , I don't know.The perp then shuts the door and moves toward the officer .That's when the officer tried to cuff him .The perp fought the officer and ran , why ?The officer had a choice let him go , or catch him .Spur of the moment , he chose to catch the perp .Perp fought him , and he tried to tazz the perp .Now the perp grabbed the tazzer and tried to take it from the officer .At that point it became a life or death situation for the officer ! Justified shooting ! Maybe it's time people start respecting others in authority .They learn not to in school , because teachers can't discipline any more , and feel they can do as they please . Parents can't discipline their kids any more. But when their  kid gets in trouble or does something wrong , NOT MY KID ,THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT! There's what's wrong today !
Yes you have the right to question why you're stopped , but not to resist arrest !

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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Diggerman] #7603214
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
You are kinda special, aint ya. Yes I am very ok with questioning authority. You pull me over, you had better be able and willing to articulate why and what for.
I have no clue what you mean with your last sentence.



What I mean is you want to blaim the cop for the actions the perp did that. Lead to the outcome. There is a big difference from asking why your stopped vs getting out of your car, not complying, running, taking a cops weapon. You can't see that you are part of today's society problem.

Just ask swamp wolf if he thinks I'm all 100% pro law enforcement. I'm not but make thug choices get thug consequences.

You seem to want to make it out that the perp was OK in his actions and the cop was wrong. Hence if so you are why America is in the shape its in.

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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: GoGitter] #7603224
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Ran into a guy that worked at home depot this evening while food shopping. Now he is in the academy to be on lawrence pd. 100,000+ population. This guy was a lazy sos at home depot, is chunky and probably could not subdue anyone who did not want to be arrested.....probably would take 4 of him to subdue the guy in the video..



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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Blaine County] #7603284
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
There is a good video here. https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...urder-patrick-lyoya-shooting/7559415001/

Based on what I saw, Lyoya had it coming. I'm not a cop, but it seems to me that night sticks need to make a comeback. Or shoot them, whatever. They are multiplying and getting bolder.

As for cops fighting, my 106 pound 14 year old wrestler son could have beaten the brakes off that cop. I don't know if it's the heavy gear, candidates, training or society getting weaker, but too many cops shooting black guy videos show cops shooting because they couldn't win the fight.

Here's a rebuttal to the input from left field. Yeah all the gear played a roll. I work out daily on my lunch break, for 1 hour, every weekday. There's a reason loose T shirt and sweats are worn during workout. They key word in your post, is the very last one "Fight" If the dipstick had not fought the cop, very likely he would be out on bail commiting new crimes.


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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Diggerman] #7603286
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Sounds reasonable, death for having the wrong plates on your car.

Kinda skipping a few parts? Seems his death happened due to fighting the cop. The cop shouted several times, "Let go of the tazer" NOT you got bad plates, you got bad plates....BANG!


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Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Diggerman] #7603288
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
You are kinda special, aint ya. Yes I am very ok with questioning authority. You pull me over, you had better be able and willing to articulate why and what for.
I have no clue what you mean with your last sentence.

And if they are not willing and don't articulate to your satisfaction, then what are you going to do? Will you resist,fight, grab Tazer or firearm?


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Originally Posted by Diggerman
You are kinda special, aint ya. Yes I am very ok with questioning authority. You pull me over, you had better be able and willing to articulate why and what for.
I have no clue what you mean with your last sentence.

And if they are not willing and don't articulate to your satisfaction, then what are you going to do? Will you resist,fight, grab Tazer or firearm?

I will dial 911 and ask for a supervisor.

Re: Cop charged with murder [Re: Providence Farm] #7603340
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Diggerman
You are kinda special, aint ya. Yes I am very ok with questioning authority. You pull me over, you had better be able and willing to articulate why and what for.
I have no clue what you mean with your last sentence.



What I mean is you want to blaim the cop for the actions the perp did that. Lead to the outcome. There is a big difference from asking why your stopped vs getting out of your car, not complying, running, taking a cops weapon. You can't see that you are part of today's society problem.

Just ask swamp wolf if he thinks I'm all 100% pro law enforcement. I'm not but make thug choices get thug consequences.

You seem to want to make it out that the perp was OK in his actions and the cop was wrong. Hence if so you are why America is in the shape its in.

Reading comprehension , read what I write not what you want to read. I NEVER, EVER said the dead guy was right or innocent. I SAID, the cop made a poor choice that led to the mans death, The man made poor choices also, BUT he has not been trained and is being paid to "serve and protect". The cop is supposed to be a PROFFESIONAL, as such he should have diffused or at least not escalated a traffic stop to a funeral.
(disclamer), I only watched the video once, never seen the guy attack the cop before he was tackled, was not aware of the priors as was not the cop. I am certain in his training he is advised NOT to initiate contact while alone. Of coarse if it showed the man initiating the contact and escalting the situation , fine, do what you gotta do.

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I know what the problem is diggerman. You watched the wrong video! Has the be it.

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The new order in this country is the black man can do no wrong. The white cop is screwed.

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Chris Rock has a video on YouTube that explains to black folk and diggerman how to behave during a traffic stop. Look it up- How not to get your butt kicked by the police. There is wise information there


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Against my better judgement, I watched it again. At no point did I see an offensive move by the dead guy, At no point did I see where the cops life was in danger, At any time the cop could have stopped and walked away and diffused the situation. I am not taking sides, dont care, but anyone who thinks what this cop did is "OK", better not carp about the fbi in Michigan or justice departments over reach.

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I will dial 911 and ask for a supervisor. (quote)

If I was the cop, you wouldnt be using your phone, lol....that's participation trophy mindset right there...way too much latitude.


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Les, this is still America for the time being, We all have rights here. I will stand up for mine. You want to be a sheep, go ahead, thats your right. Couple of my hounds won trophies, me not so much.

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Youre of the understanding your “right” on a traffic stop is to be on the phone as you please? Again, i think youre watching the wrong video because i saw a justified shooting of a criminal. A POS that deserved to die based on his actions.

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