Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
[Re: Finster]
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06/12/22 07:44 PM
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danny clifton
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Background checks are worse than stupid. They inconvenience honest people and have never stopped a crime. Keep dangerous people locked up. That does decrease violence.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 07:56 PM
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charles
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Like the song says, you got to know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said.
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
[Re: charles]
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06/12/22 08:01 PM
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Like the song says, know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said. And this is how we got to where we are at today. Perfect example.
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
[Re: charles]
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06/12/22 08:08 PM
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Like the song says, know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said. So Charles --- what are our options -- start shooting? What is your opinion on what we are supposed to do and how this plays out?
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 08:19 PM
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J Staton
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As it reads on this post I don’t see anything I disagree with here. Money for teacher training (maybe that could mean firearms training), money for schools to beef up security (maybe that means hiring armed guards), money to address mental health, which is always good, keeps violent domestic abusers from buying guns, which is good, checks a person’s juvenile record before selling them a gun, good.
All this checks out. The 2nd amendment still intact and addresses the problem. Let’s see what other crap they try to shove in it, but as it reads here, it’s all good stuff. I wonder if a common mental ailment like anxiety will qualify for disarming? How about a veteran dealing with aftermath of war? Maybe someone depressed over losing someone close to them? Wonder if anyone were to seek treatment for things such as these will be red flagged? Anti 2A judges could have a hayday.
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 08:20 PM
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I read the original post, didn't see anything about banning guns or mag capacities or age limit as to who can purchase a gun (of any type). Obviously, the problem is a social problem, not a gun problem. Reading this it would seem to indicate that that is what they may finally be recognizing this. I am a gun owner in NY state, and I feel the state is a bigger threat to the 2nd amendment than the Federal government right now. My 2 cents.
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
[Re: charles]
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06/12/22 08:24 PM
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Just a question to our members. Who among us needs a gun that they can't get in a few days? I doubt these proposed laws will have any impact on Trapperman members at all.
Right now? No... but I might. What if I was in a relationship and the man threatened to kill me... waiting a week to get a gun could mean the difference between me living and dying. What if I lived in a city like Minneapolis a few years ago and on the first night of the riots I huddled in my home scared to death because I had no way to defend myself? I'd sure want to go and buy a shotgun and some buckshot as soon as the gun shop opened the next day.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 08:59 PM
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Like the song says, you got to know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said.
Do you know what exactly is in the bill? I'm betting when the details are known, it is a very bad hand indeed.
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 09:09 PM
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Leftlane
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Give them better laws to enforce?
LMBFBO, care to look up the lack of enforcement of existing laws? Naw, I didn't think so...
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 09:21 PM
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This proposed deal might not affect some of us commoners, but that doesn't really matter for now.
Just wait until the House of Representatives start to roll out their version of a "gun deal". I'll go out on a limb and say the Senate and House version won't look a like.
Life Member: ITA, IBA & NRA. Member of SA, FTA & NTA
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 09:23 PM
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Mike in A-town
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The problem is that while WE have a pretty decent understanding of what being mentally ill encompasses... THEIR definition and criteria will be nowhere near that.
If you're opposed to any of the garbage they're trying to convince you is normal or mainstream, you can bet it will be used against you.
Have fun with that.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 09:29 PM
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danny clifton
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The ONLY thing new gun control does is make the communists whine for more of it. Encourage’s them in fact. Does nothing to appease them. I want back all the freedom I had when I was born. I get that I will work on getting back all the freedoms my great something grandad had when England surrendered to the Continental Army.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 09:30 PM
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The problem is that while WE have a pretty decent understanding of what being mentally ill encompasses... THEIR definition and criteria will be nowhere near that.
If you're opposed to any of the garbage they're trying to convince you is normal or mainstream, you can bet it will be used against you.
Have fun with that.
Mike To them a man can be a woman and thats OK. But if you think you can't trust the government no guns for you. Your crazy.
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 09:43 PM
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Mike in A-town
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The problem is that while WE have a pretty decent understanding of what being mentally ill encompasses... THEIR definition and criteria will be nowhere near that.
If you're opposed to any of the garbage they're trying to convince you is normal or mainstream, you can bet it will be used against you.
Have fun with that.
Mike To them a man can be a woman and thats OK. But if you think you can't trust the government no guns for you. Your crazy. Exactly. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 10:46 PM
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yotetrapper30
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Even the democrats are calling it a red flag law. But half the people on here seem to be all for it!
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced
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06/12/22 11:07 PM
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Marty
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The ministry of truth will use red flag laws to disarm/imprison all resistance leaders..
E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.
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