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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603823
06/12/22 07:44 PM
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Background checks are worse than stupid. They inconvenience honest people and have never stopped a crime. Keep dangerous people locked up. That does decrease violence.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603825
06/12/22 07:48 PM
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The government is so out of control I wouldn’t trust them to toast bread.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603838
06/12/22 07:56 PM
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Like the song says, you got to know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said.

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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: charles] #7603842
06/12/22 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
Like the song says, know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said.


And this is how we got to where we are at today. Perfect example.

Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: charles] #7603846
06/12/22 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
Like the song says, know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said.

So Charles --- what are our options -- start shooting? What is your opinion on what we are supposed to do and how this plays out?

Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603856
06/12/22 08:19 PM
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NO. Two wrongs do not make a right, but we can't turn the other cheek either. We need better judges for a start. We are giving them better laws to enforce.

If you own a gunshop, do you sell to someone you know shouldn't be walking out the door with a gun? You might. Times are hard and that kid is going across the street to your competition. If you can both say NO, aren't you at least making it more difficult for a juvenile to kill his parents, his neighbors, or his classmates?

Would you prefer to just have no more gunshops? Not me.








Just a question to our members. Who among us needs a gun that they can't get in a few days? I doubt these proposed laws will have any impact on Trapperman members at all.

Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Bob] #7603857
06/12/22 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob
As it reads on this post I don’t see anything I disagree with here. Money for teacher training (maybe that could mean firearms training), money for schools to beef up security (maybe that means hiring armed guards), money to address mental health, which is always good, keeps violent domestic abusers from buying guns, which is good, checks a person’s juvenile record before selling them a gun, good.

All this checks out. The 2nd amendment still intact and addresses the problem. Let’s see what other crap they try to shove in it, but as it reads here, it’s all good stuff.

I wonder if a common mental ailment like anxiety will qualify for disarming? How about a veteran dealing with aftermath of war? Maybe someone depressed over losing someone close to them? Wonder if anyone were to seek treatment for things such as these will be red flagged? Anti 2A judges could have a hayday.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603861
06/12/22 08:20 PM
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I read the original post, didn't see anything about banning guns or mag capacities or age limit as to who can purchase a gun (of any type). Obviously, the problem is a social problem, not a gun problem. Reading this it would seem to indicate that that is what they may finally be recognizing this. I am a gun owner in NY state, and I feel the state is a bigger threat to the 2nd amendment than the Federal government right now. My 2 cents.

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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: charles] #7603863
06/12/22 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by charles


Just a question to our members. Who among us needs a gun that they can't get in a few days? I doubt these proposed laws will have any impact on Trapperman members at all.


Right now? No... but I might. What if I was in a relationship and the man threatened to kill me... waiting a week to get a gun could mean the difference between me living and dying. What if I lived in a city like Minneapolis a few years ago and on the first night of the riots I huddled in my home scared to death because I had no way to defend myself? I'd sure want to go and buy a shotgun and some buckshot as soon as the gun shop opened the next day.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: charles] #7603884
06/12/22 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
Like the song says, you got to know when to hold um, know when to fold um. It is not a bad hand to have. Reread what Bob said.

Do you know what exactly is in the bill? I'm betting when the details are known, it is a very bad hand indeed.

Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603886
06/12/22 09:01 PM
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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603894
06/12/22 09:09 PM
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Give them better laws to enforce?

LMBFBO, care to look up the lack of enforcement of existing laws? Naw, I didn't think so...


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603903
06/12/22 09:21 PM
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This proposed deal might not affect some of us commoners, but that doesn't really matter for now.

Just wait until the House of Representatives start to roll out their version of a "gun deal". I'll go out on a limb and say the Senate and House version won't look a like.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603905
06/12/22 09:23 PM
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The problem is that while WE have a pretty decent understanding of what being mentally ill encompasses... THEIR definition and criteria will be nowhere near that.

If you're opposed to any of the garbage they're trying to convince you is normal or mainstream, you can bet it will be used against you.

Have fun with that.

Mike


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603909
06/12/22 09:29 PM
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The ONLY thing new gun control does is make the communists whine for more of it. Encourage’s them in fact. Does nothing to appease them. I want back all the freedom I had when I was born. I get that I will work on getting back all the freedoms my great something grandad had when England surrendered to the Continental Army.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Mike in A-town] #7603911
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
The problem is that while WE have a pretty decent understanding of what being mentally ill encompasses... THEIR definition and criteria will be nowhere near that.

If you're opposed to any of the garbage they're trying to convince you is normal or mainstream, you can bet it will be used against you.

Have fun with that.

Mike

To them a man can be a woman and thats OK. But if you think you can't trust the government no guns for you. Your crazy.

Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Providence Farm] #7603918
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
The problem is that while WE have a pretty decent understanding of what being mentally ill encompasses... THEIR definition and criteria will be nowhere near that.

If you're opposed to any of the garbage they're trying to convince you is normal or mainstream, you can bet it will be used against you.

Have fun with that.

Mike

To them a man can be a woman and thats OK. But if you think you can't trust the government no guns for you. Your crazy.


Exactly.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Diggerman] #7603945
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
How do you make a "red flag law" with out calling it a red flag law?

Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603953
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Even the democrats are calling it a red flag law. But half the people on here seem to be all for it!


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Re: Bipartisan Gun Deal Announced [Re: Finster] #7603960
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The ministry of truth will use red flag laws to disarm/imprison all resistance leaders..


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