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Dead cattle #7605921
06/15/22 09:17 PM
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Unexplainably over 3000 cows dad in southwest Kansas over the weekend. I heard 7000 in AZ. Anyone hear anything about it?


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Re: Dead cattle [Re: MJM] #7605926
06/15/22 09:21 PM
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Pawnee would know more. Numbers I heard from just a couple of yards would make me believe the numbers could be higher than that in SW Kansas. Not unexplainable though. Extreme heat and humidity

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Re: Dead cattle [Re: MJM] #7606020
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Coyotes are gonna be fat and sassy!!


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Re: Dead cattle [Re: MJM] #7606022
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there goes the price of beef , like it wasn't high enough


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Wow with the rising, outrageous price of diesel some of these farmers are getting hit hard. Hope some relief comes their way soon.


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Re: Dead cattle [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7606054
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
there goes the price of beef , like it wasn't high enough

Did you read the whole article? , They said the same day of the article, beef futures dropped.

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their rendering plants cant handle that number

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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
there goes the price of beef , like it wasn't high enough

Did you read the whole article? , They said the same day of the article, beef futures dropped.

Let's face it, rarely does anyone read the whole article of any subject on trapperman. It's way more fun to play economist than to read a boring article, LOL. You guys that lost animals, sorry for the hard luck .


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It will result in higher retail meat prices. The futures market is pretty disconnected from the real market sometimes. The packer may give the feeder $50 more because of it but increase their profit at least a couple hundred because of the "shortage ".

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I am surprised they didn't say global warming caused it. I can't say I ever heard of 10,000 cattle dying from heat stress before. Has anyone else? But I never heard of 50 food processing plants burning down in a year either.


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Re: Dead cattle [Re: Diggerman] #7606228
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
there goes the price of beef , like it wasn't high enough

Did you read the whole article? , They said the same day of the article, beef futures dropped.


the market hadn't yet had time to react when the article was written

10K does sound like a lot but when Week to date slaughter is 368K it isn't as big a number as it sounds.

https://www.barchart.com/story/news/8759466/cattle-futures-following-strong-cash

At the Wednesday close live cattle futures were $0.82 to $2.72 stronger. Prices did fade their midday highs, which for June left about 45 cents on the table. The other contracts left more on the table, but had filled their gaps to start the week – though they left new gaps at the open. The FCE auction had no sales for the 790 head listed today. Asks jumped up to the $138-$140 range, bids were also higher @ $135-$138. USDA mentioned limited Wednesday sales in the North, from $144 - $148, with the bulk near $145 and $230 dressed. Southern deals were light on Wednesday with Tuesday’s market near $136 - $138 as the bulk so far.

Multiple reports of dead cattle from heat loss are flooding wire and social media sources. It is difficult to compute a total at this point. Temperatures in the South went from highs in the 80s last week to +100s through Wednesday.


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I’m no cattleman, but my understanding is that many of these cattle just came off fescue pasture in MO. Vasoconstriction from eating endophyte-infected fescue makes it hard for them to shed the excess heat.

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Local fed cattle sales have been about .10 over the Board price for about nine months this time. Top prime beef is at about 1.45, down a little (.03) from last week.

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Originally Posted by jht
I’m no cattleman, but my understanding is that many of these cattle just came off fescue pasture in MO. Vasoconstriction from eating endophyte-infected fescue makes it hard for them to shed the excess heat.

That sounds like a good explanation

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Brome and fescue both need to be declared a noxious weed in ks.


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