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Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606430
06/16/22 03:42 PM
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But I can still buy military brass for now.

Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606451
06/16/22 03:52 PM
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This might also have something to do with the addition of, and change to, the 6.8x51 cartridge that will be produced at Lake City


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Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606472
06/16/22 04:21 PM
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Ammo inc is also on line in WI

this also didn't appear to state XM193 just ss109 and m855

most civilians would shoot XM193

Winchester has the contract to operate , they could not re-sing the contract when time is up and put every dime of profits into operating it's other plants

the LC plant is also tooling up for 6.8x51 with new buildings that ammo will be substantially more expensive than the 855 or 109 those will have to increase in price to Gov contract a bunch of weekend shooters can run more ammo on a weekend that the army uses in a month

if you take the profit out of Lace city then who will bid on the contract later ?

does it specify that LC can't make and sell excess brass that is not a loaded round ? that could as profitable semi loads of brass sent to other loading companies

how will it influence the pull down market every out of spec round would have to be pulled down rather than resold if they miss velocity minimum by a margin.

there are an estimated 20 million regular target shooters in the US and the break down is 12 million rifle , 13 million pistol , 10 million shotgun and 3 million muzzle loader , with some obvious overlap

every time there is an ammo crunch people buy more shoot a little less and billions more rounds of ammo go into private ownership.


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Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606482
06/16/22 04:34 PM
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https://www.ketk.com/news/local-new...ing-to-east-texas-looking-for-employees/

I wouldn't say there's no new plants opening. This was in January near Texarkana

Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606543
06/16/22 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
This might also have something to do with the addition of, and change to, the 6.8x51 cartridge that will be produced at Lake City

There have not been 20 million 6.8x51's made yet.

Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #7606556
06/16/22 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
No need to worry, you will find plenty for free when it matters most, keep your AR's.

Yep. Told my sons a while back that if you're gonna buy a gun it needs to be .223/5.56, 9mm, .40, or .308. They asked why? I said because you can likely find more on dead soldiers and citizens.


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Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: Catch22] #7606564
06/16/22 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
I don't understand. How can Biden tell a private manufacture to stop selling to a select demographic? Is he maybe threatening Winchester with their contract for the military, otherwise why wouldn't Winchester tell Biden to pound sand?

Technically we are not a free country. If those in power say no, they will get their way. Just like certain books that were not allowed to be published. Yes, it's hsppened.

Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: hippie] #7606606
06/16/22 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
I know I sound tin-hatish, but I've been saying for years now that our ammo and component shortages are not because of "hoarders".

There's no reason companies haven't ramped up production to meet a growing demand that started 30 years ago under Clinton.
Any other industry would've unless there's behind the scene reasons.


Take our recent oil industry as an example?




Yep , I agree


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Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606659
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I have enough of that ammo to get more of it if it came to needing more....


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Re: Biden restrictions on 223/556 ?? [Re: white17] #7606710
06/16/22 10:00 PM
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Bubba took his stimulus check to the gun stores in record numbers. Inventory was wiped out the first week.

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