Re: No use for FMJ
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I have the same thoughts as well. Some states it is illegal to use FMJ for hunting. I am thinking the FMJ loads are from over runs like Lake City and sold cheaper. As long as folks keep buying they will keep supplying them.
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Re: No use for FMJ
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Whays wrong with HEAD shots? Less wasted meat.
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Re: No use for FMJ
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06/18/22 06:34 PM
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Am I the only one who never really buys or reloads FMJ ? Don't really have a purpose for it since all my shooting just kinda fall back to trying to put a round in a critter. Dont like having to change my zeros ( nothing like missing a coyote because your zeroed for FMJ but slapped in a VMAX , ask me how I know lol) all the time so I just load stuff I can actually hunt with. I mean don't get me wrong you can hunt with FMJ.....but head shots are frowned upon I remember reading an article in one of my dads gun mags from the 50 that described converting FMJs into hunting rounds by grinding the front part down so that it would mushroom, never tried it but remember reading about it though for the life of me can’t remember the mag or who wrote it That said In pistol ammo I do buy FMJs if I can get them cheap enough just to blow through at the range in my range guns of which I have a few that just see range use, and I have a few that closely print to what my carry guns with carry ammo does so it gets bought for practice instead of using high price carry ammo or if I need a bunch or brass, but that’s about it, I have used it for plinking gophers and other small pests but 99% of what I buy or reload is either home cast lead or hunting/self defense rounds
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Re: No use for FMJ
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06/18/22 06:52 PM
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Re: No use for FMJ
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06/18/22 07:04 PM
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Am I the only one who never really buys or reloads FMJ ? Don't really have a purpose for it since all my shooting just kinda fall back to trying to put a round in a critter. Dont like having to change my zeros ( nothing like missing a coyote because your zeroed for FMJ but slapped in a VMAX , ask me how I know lol) all the time so I just load stuff I can actually hunt with. I mean don't get me wrong you can hunt with FMJ.....but head shots are frowned upon I remember reading an article in one of my dads gun mags from the 50 that described converting FMJs into hunting rounds by grinding the front part down so that it would mushroom, never tried it but remember reading about it though for the life of me can’t remember the mag or who wrote it That said In pistol ammo I do buy FMJs if I can get them cheap enough just to blow through at the range in my range guns of which I have a few that just see range use, and I have a few that closely print to what my carry guns with carry ammo does so it gets bought for practice instead of using high price carry ammo or if I need a bunch or brass, but that’s about it, I have used it for plinking gophers and other small pests but 99% of what I buy or reload is either home cast lead or hunting/self defense rounds I have a old jig my father in law made that holds 10 .22 lr rounds, a file takes the very tip off making it flat. That is supposed to greatly increase shock factor on impact. The jig I guess makes them uniform. I too have read about flat tipping FMJ rounds. I also have no problem with head shots, as long as it's well withing my personal sure shot range.
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Re: No use for FMJ
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06/18/22 10:18 PM
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FMJ has it's place in target shooting because they tend to cost less but work decent enough
I don't personalty reload FMJ for 223 because for about a penny a round I can load soft points and have one ammo for targets and critters
I do the same in 308
in 9mm however I load a lot of round nose coated today was 301 rounds used between the 2 of us so a fair amount I like to have 500 with for a match one reshoot of a long stage and that could go from 301 to 370 fairly quickly.
in 22lr I buy mostly target ammo CCI SV or blazer I can't tell the accuracy difference in my pistol so blazer functions it well and saves cost
I keep 22lr hollow points for game and dispatch
it really all depends on your use
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Re: No use for FMJ
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06/18/22 10:23 PM
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I’ve been through the Sierra bullet factory with one of their head ballistic men and he said that the public wants their 55 gr. fmj bullet and that Sierra really didn’t like to make them. They aren’t as accurate as other bullets because of the way they have to draw the jackets. I think most casual buyers want budget ammo and if they could make soft points at the same price they could sell those no problem but can they soft points at the same price ?
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Re: No use for FMJ
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06/18/22 10:43 PM
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I’ve used 55 gr hand loaded fmj’s in my 22-250 for years coyote hunting. Never had one complain about its demise. If you can shoot, they will do just fine.
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Re: No use for FMJ
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9mm fmj will blow the lungs right out of the body...
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Re: No use for FMJ
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Back about 40 years ago, we went jackrabbit/coyote hunting with 7.62 mm military ball ammo that I was given. They were a little bit hotter than my standard reloads for .308. It was interesting to see some of the wound channels. We didn't run into any coyotes that day but did pile up the jacks...
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