Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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08/19/22 03:53 PM
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Any info out there on this trap? How are they?
I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
More trappin' and less yappin'.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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08/20/22 09:40 AM
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Howdy LT. Weird they are 129.00 a dozen from wcs.
I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
More trappin' and less yappin'.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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09/21/22 12:51 PM
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Tony H
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I’m working on a fixture to replace the springs on OOS traps. So you can buy the new aluminum ones and put heavy springs on them. I’ve been doing it successfully for over a year. There is also a source for springs, too. I think they run $3-$4 each.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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10/04/22 08:56 PM
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Just got a. Dozen. Nice pan. Larger surface then OOS. As for spring strength can't set them with my hands. Might not be l as strong as an OSS but are real close.
As to jaw closure some have a wider gap then others. This was a problem with the Chinese made OOS also. A lot of older maybe US made have wide gaps. That can be fixed with a die grinder. Problem is in the form used to make the traps. Almost like they used some Chinese traps to make the dies.
Problems with with hard dirt are not new even with OOS. Don't set straight up. Set at a angle. Top jaw will be in the dirt but not real deep. Bottom jaw will be in deeper and tight. Doing that will get less tripped and empty traps. At least it does for me.
When I get them done and the jaws tighten I will post a picture or two and show where and what I do. Hard to believe others have not done this.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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10/10/22 05:20 PM
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Thanks for the info will.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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10/13/22 10:49 PM
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Set them all yesterday. I found out why there is a weak spring question. Most had good tension but 2 where questionable. Not as bad as the aluminum OOS are but still noticeably weaker.
The old OOS springs have 13 coils. The WCS have 12. Same wire size. One more wrap and they would probably be equal.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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10/15/22 08:19 PM
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Tony has a something good I would say. The picture is of my first time use of some WCS traps. They work but springs are definitly not the same one trap to another. Some are not bad but some are weaker then the not bad ones. WCS needs to get them a bit stronger and more consistant. The frames will take a much stronger spring as they seem stout.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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10/17/22 07:58 PM
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Tony, Your device might work. The only difference that might interfere is the cross braces in the middle seem to be a little bit closer to the top. I hold the pan down with my middle when I set them and I can get pressure with my finger a bit easier with an OOS. I can do it with the WCS but takes a bit more to get good pressure as the gap is smaller.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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10/17/22 08:43 PM
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Yeah the corners of the fixture might hit. Regardless I was hoping to give all those old OOS traps new life with this fixture. I’ve had very little interest. I guess no one wants to put the time and effort into saving their old traps.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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11/06/22 09:29 PM
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I haven't used O/S traps for more years then I can remember. What do you use instead?
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Tony H]
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02/21/24 04:35 PM
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When it comes to springs and spring strength there are many more factors that come into play when you talk about “strength”. The quality AND type of steel play a huge part on the strength. Diameter of wire and number of coils also plays a role, but also how tightly those coils are formed affects strength. I have 3 different aftermarket springs for the OOS. All three are different, with variations in strength.
The reason I have this info is because I have made a fixture to remove and replace springs on the OOS traps and have talked to a spring expert on the subject. I will have the fixtures for sale shortly. It will allow anyone to replace springs on any OOS traps, both new and old style. I know this is an old topic, but Tony makes a good point here. Adding another coil to a spring wouldn't necessarily increase the strength of the spring, and in fact it might weaken it. That extra coil would increase the degree of rotation that the spring could be put through without failing. But yes, there are a lot of factors that come into play. Spring designers have complicated formulas to figure this stuff out. And I don't understand those formulas at all, I just use trial and error.
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Re: wcs mole trap
[Re: Wolv1001]
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02/22/24 09:32 AM
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If anyone is on here that would be interested I have some mole traps I bought years ago when I first started but apparently we don’t have moles this far north lol let me know. They kinda look like yote guts pic Still in the boxes I believe
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