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Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611028
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My grandpa broke horses for a living for over 50 years, and he always told me when you’re dealing with horses it’s not a question of IF you’ll get hurt, the question is when and how bad.


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Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: white17] #7611045
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Originally Posted by white17
What more evidence do you need ?

Maybe your daughter will become a famous artist too.

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grin I was JUST thinking of that photo.

That was my first horse , a small horse, barely at the hands he needed to be qualified, and not a large pony. He was quick as could be and could turn faster , rollback faster than many big horses.

Donners., Poco Bueno was among the foundation stock that made the AQHA what it is, along with others. I sure like them, and when I do see the old bulldog body and neck shape these days, it takes me right back to that line.

Look.

Anything in life has its risk.

Motorcycles have that same saying, "its not if, but when" ...so do 4 wheelers, and wait.....what about vechiles ?? smile Who stops driving, or never lets the kids ever drive them in life ? Same for tractors and farm equipment.

Like with all the above, taking lessons or instruction from a qualified adult can troubleshoot a lot of accidents. A lot.

I've had some decent spills . I haven't broken one bone , but have been bruised from head to toe on one side, and one spill I do feel I should have been severely injured, but was not.

Yes there are serious injuries , even death on all these moving entities . We try our best to troubleshoot most of them and be as careful as possible.

If you never want kids to move in the air, enjoy some speed, learn good hand/eye/body coordination, with the gravity of life, then don't let them do anything that is risky. Although we all did ourselves, and survived.

Of course the choice is up to parents.

One thing....if a child is truly, really into a subject, and only they know , can feel that it is in their blood to enjoy, telling them no will make for a slow boil of resentment over time. To find out which type they are, have them take lessons and or work on a ranch or boarding barn , as others have mentioned. If it's in their blood, they'll do anything to enjoy the sport.




Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611054
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I guess I'm going to have to move putting up some new fence up the priority list and start shopping. I have a line for lessons for my boys. If they take to it I will buy some horses and a trailer.

Everyone hear I'd such an enabling bad influence. Well at least the ones I have come to respect. Jbyrd63 is right you can get hurt but you can get hurt doing anything. My wife has a ton of scars from getting through into a barb wire fence. Didn't stop her from riding. My first son was killed in a car wreck when a guy ran a red light but I still drive with my kids.

Everything in life has risk everything fun has more. You can't live your life wrapped in bubble wrap. Jbyrd63 thinks it's a bad idea so it must be a good idea. Any doubt look at his opponents on gun control should tell you to do the opposite of what he thinks.

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611063
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Are you really going to make your decision based on a poll on a social media site? My parents bought a horse for my niece. When my Dad retired he spent a lot of time talking to that horse. Lol

He was happy with his decision.


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Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611065
06/23/22 04:15 PM
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grin What Jbyrd63 also doesn't realize, is that those "old timers" who "broke" horses for years, long ago, did it all the hard way. No wonder they got dinged up.

Horse TRAINING has come a long way since those old bronc busters.

I grew up in that same world, though some were beginning to understand how to reason with animals and not demand they obey, lose patience and try to force them.

The known trainers now can make a safe horse who WANTS to trust and do what they are asked faster than the old tie em up and throw em into a running W ever did. And what's better, those horses like human company, are not spoiled, and won't end up hurting you when they see the situation isn't what they trust.

There's a reason most "bronk busters" don't like mules. They won't take no mess. They are much as we are...do we subject ourselves to something we don't understand at the demand of someone who threatens to whip us if we don't ? That's why you don't see mules rode as bucking stock in rodeos. They are worse than bulls at calculated revenge. A good mule is worth their weight in gold, and it isn't because they've been manhandled into submission.

So those old times who say it's a matter of when they are severely hurt, it's no wonder, to me. There's a lot more under the surface to understand with that saying, and who's saying it the most.

I guarantee the million dollar syndicated show horses are never "broke" that old way.






Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611071
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Jbyrd63 needs to stick to the stock market. He is much bettah in that .... though I still say he should take a ride in a pony ring . He would have a blast grin

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: jbyrd63] #7611084
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Amazing how horse lovers say yes! Yes ! Yes !
Others say nope too much money and going to get hurt ! Lol


Horse lovers have inside knowledge and personal experience the naysayers don't.

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611087
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Quick story....My wife always wanted a horse, when our daughter was around 12 We finally got one for her, but not after some extensive lessons not only on riding but horse care, she had an "interesting" list of trainers, from dressage, pro racing folks and Manny, lol, the biggest character of all. We ended up at Manny's barn cause there isn't the land available thats affordable here, but it was a better situation, Manny was also a horse dealer, when he realized my daughter was good with the horses he'd tell her, go get that new chestnut and find out whats wrong with him and fix it...and she did. Fixed them and moved on to the next. In the meantime she showed western pleasure and gymkana, till she went to college. Then it all stopped and guess who got to take care of the horse.

Fast forward 22 years, Shes now 41, a private school teacher in Texas, never married and no children and got the horse bug again, she joined 40 something cowgirl association and now has like minded friends that trail ride, and just hang out with...Shes's a good horsewoman and she's happy. In fact she just got back from Iceland where they rode those viking horses all week all over the island.

So, all that to say this, Horses were good for her, but it took some time to get back to it. Sharon, her horse was out of the Barr, and tuff cat line....

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: jbyrd63] #7611088
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Amazing how horse lovers say yes! Yes ! Yes !
Others say nope too much money and going to get hurt ! Lol

My inner cowboy says yes and I don't know how to ride. Make her dream come true, buy her one.

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611097
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The novelty of a horse wears off fast when she realizes how much work they are. Unless she has someone to go riding with it will be boring for her. But by that time she will be attached to it and won't let you get rid of it. So Dad, have fun feeding it every day, cleaning stalls, and paying for the feed, vet, farrier, etc. Speaking from experience here.

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611101
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Hey Sharon, I thought that was you that rode by my place just last week,
Here is my thoughts and experiences with horses.
1 Get a short one, the fall don't hurt so much.
2 Get a slow one, same as above.
3 Get one with bad teeth, when they bite you in the shoulder it won't hurt as bad.
4 Buy enough property to keep one (80 acres or so should be enough)
5 They really don't eat that much, a big round bale will last a week or so.
6 Go to the bank and get a bucket of quarters, Go to Wal-Mart and spend them on that little guy that goes round and round by the entrance.


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Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: Dstone1992] #7611102
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My decision has been made. For the record someone asked if I would make my decision based off a social media post the answer is no. I'm not basing my decision off of this but there was alot of good info to be had from it. I actually already have a horse lined up it's been lined up I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. My friends girl friend is going to pick him up tomorrow and keep him for a while and ride him to make sure he's the right one for my daughter. Thanks for everyone's input.

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PICS of when the big day happens.

Take a deep seat a deep breath and pray!

Re: Should I get my daughter a horse? poll [Re: jbyrd63] #7611113
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Amazing how horse lovers say yes! Yes ! Yes !
Others say nope too much money and going to get hurt ! Lol

Excellent point. Now do you go with the armchair quarterbacks or the ones with real experience?? I'll share a little story with u. Few years ago I was in to see the Dr. He's been a small town rural Dr for his whole life. Probably in his upper 60s. In the conversation I mentioned I'd been doctoring a lot of cattle out on grass that year. He asks if I'm doing it horseback or on a four wheeler. I answer horseback expecting a lecture on the dangers of horses. Instead he says good, I've treated way more guys that get hurt working cattle on four wheelers than horses.

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Originally Posted by Dstone1992
My decision has been made. For the record someone asked if I would make my decision based off a social media post the answer is no. I'm not basing my decision off of this but there was alot of good info to be had from it. I actually already have a horse lined up it's been lined up I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. My friends girl friend is going to pick him up tomorrow and keep him for a while and ride him to make sure he's the right one for my daughter. Thanks for everyone's input.



Good job dad.

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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Amazing how horse lovers say yes! Yes ! Yes !
Others say nope too much money and going to get hurt ! Lol

Horses and AR's may be a lot the same in that regard, people with no clue about both say nope.


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When did the world begin living in so much fear of getting hurt? I've never read books or heard stories told about the guy who played it safe and never took a risk. Life is meant to live not to hide from. Ever wonder why we have so much mental illness?

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Excellent point. Now do you go with the armchair quarterbacks or the ones with real experience?? I'll share a little story with u. Few years ago I was in to see the Dr. He's been a small town rural Dr for his whole life. Probably in his upper 60s. In the conversation I mentioned I'd been doctoring a lot of cattle out on grass that year. He asks if I'm doing it horseback or on a four wheeler. I answer horseback expecting a lecture on the dangers of horses. Instead he says good, I've treated way more guys that get hurt working cattle on four wheelers than horses. [/quote]
Interesting.


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I smell money burning!

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I smell money burning!

If you trap you burn it too, lol.

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